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05-30-2008, 12:00 PM
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Re: I'm Confused Dr. V - Wasn't Branahm a ...
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Originally Posted by RevBuddy
I wasn't justifying anything! His Word needs absolutely no justification, and asks for none.
I was just giving you an example of the first Pentecostal service...very dynamic with elements of the not-so-quiet supernatural...
...but relax, I didn't even mention the earthquake or the lightning or the thunder or the high sounding cymbals, etc., etc., etc. - all biblical descriptions of God's mighty power AND of those worshipping Him...
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May I invite you to the NT... Pauls Church was NOTHINg like that.. he is our example,,, anything before him was allowed... it was not the pattern
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05-30-2008, 12:13 PM
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Re: I'm Confused Dr. V - Wasn't Branahm a ...
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Thats the place.. where he told them
"change the name, change it to whatever you want" the church NOT HIM voted to not change the name.....
yep thats the one
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so at the very least we can say is the followers of Branham are idolaters?
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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05-30-2008, 12:14 PM
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Re: I'm Confused Dr. V - Wasn't Branahm a ...
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May I invite you to the NT... Pauls Church was NOTHINg like that.. he is our example,,, anything before him was allowed... it was not the pattern
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You've failed to prove that. All you have shown or talked about is what elements were in the church not what was NOT in the church. And BTW It was NOT Pauls church....hmmmmm falling back into the Branham Tabernacle paradigm I see
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-30-2008, 12:15 PM
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Re: I'm Confused Dr. V - Wasn't Branahm a ...
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so at the very least we can say is the followers of Branham are idolaters?
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Different thread ..... http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=15208
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05-30-2008, 12:19 PM
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Re: I'm Confused Dr. V - Wasn't Branahm a ...
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You understand this was Davidic Judaic praise... its all OT... we try to pattern NT churches off of NT guides
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Prove that NT worship and church was changed or not patterned off of the Jewish pattern. The first church was JEWISH.
They didn't even HAVE a bible text called "The New Testament"
And as I pointed out already
Eph 5:19 addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with all your heart,
Eph 5:20 giving thanks always and for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Eph 5:21 submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-30-2008, 02:11 PM
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Re: I'm Confused Dr. V - Wasn't Branahm a ...
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
so at the very least we can say is the followers of Branham are idolaters?
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You can say Branhamites are. yes
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05-30-2008, 02:23 PM
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Re: I'm Confused Dr. V - Wasn't Branahm a ...
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Prove that NT worship and church was changed or not patterned off of the Jewish pattern. The first church was JEWISH.
They didn't even HAVE a bible text called "The New Testament"
And as I pointed out already
Eph 5:19 addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with all your heart,
Eph 5:20 giving thanks always and for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Eph 5:21 submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.
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Do it exactly the way it reads and your fine.... We sing spiritual reverent songs and hymns in our church.... we just try not make it a flesh show... you have still showed no scriptures for isle running, shouting, rolling in the floors, jerking,, shouting,, everybody talking in tongues...
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05-30-2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: I'm Confused Dr. V - Wasn't Branahm a ...
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Do it exactly the way it reads and your fine.... We sing spiritual reverent songs and hymns in our church.... we just try not make it a flesh show... you have still showed no scriptures for isle running, shouting, rolling in the floors, jerking,, shouting,, everybody talking in tongues...
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And you are arguing from a position of silence.
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05-30-2008, 02:31 PM
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Re: I'm Confused Dr. V - Wasn't Branahm a ...
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Originally Posted by Rico
And you are arguing from a position of silence.
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RICO - No I am not.. I copied an entire chapter of specific instructions for a church service from Paul....
did I not? how is that silence
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05-30-2008, 02:33 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: I'm Confused Dr. V - Wasn't Branahm a ...
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
RICO - No I am not.. I copied an entire chapter of specific instructions for a church service from Paul....
did I not? how is that silence
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Because you are trying to use Paul's silence on issues pertaining to some aspects of exuberant worship to justify condemning the practices.
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