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Old 06-01-2014, 08:44 PM
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m

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LOL!!! I should have recognized that name as a member of the World Wide Wrestling Pentecostal Fellowship. I have seen it before.
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Old 06-01-2014, 09:20 PM
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It keeps good spirit baptized men from believing Oneness Pentecostal Ministers have anything to offer. If they are wrong on such an EASY issue how could they be right about anything else?

That and the "if women trim their hair its a sin" has caused multitudes to utterly reject Oneness truth.

Heck I AM ONENESS and I cant find a Church worth going to!

By the way, who is Marty?
Michael, I am also oneness and have lived in several cities since I left UPC. I also have yet to find a oneness church that does not follow after such traditions of men or if it doesn't - then goes of the map with the craziness of the charismatics.

What church do you go to?
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m

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He isn't UPC
MB was in the AMF for years, but got out and joined the UPC back in the 90s.
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m

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Michael, I am also oneness and have lived in several cities since I left UPC. I also have yet to find a oneness church that does not follow after such traditions of men or if it doesn't - then goes of the map with the craziness of the charismatics.

What church do you go to?
Well I hate to say it but I don't attend a local Church. I do believe in the local Church and was an Elder/Pastor for 13 years. For over 10 years until recently I met as a teacher with a group on a voice active chat program Palktalk.com

Last year we did try a local UPC Church. Same old "standards". Added together with pre trib rapture and no vision I could not do it.

I visited an Assembly Of God Church about a month ago on the basis they teach the post trib rapture. Don't see much future for a dogmatic Oneness Pentecostal there! Nonetheless I may visit there occasionally to have something to do.

I am still meeting with various groups of believers on Paltalk. It is there that I have ministered to far more people than anywhere else.

I yet have hope that before I die I will find a solid New Testament Church. How are you making it?
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:35 AM
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m

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MB was in the AMF for years, but got out and joined the UPC back in the 90s.
I don't think he is UPC anymore
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m

I can give names of current licensed and ordained UPC preachers who believe and preach this same stuff. And while they will tell you the Bible doesn't actually speak negatively about facial hair on men, they still say it is associated with rebellion, worldliness, and thus a focus for 'true apostolic preachers' to keep worldliness out of the church.
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Now and then you hear about Oneness groups that are ok with beards. Usually turns out as long as you stay off the "platform".
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m

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I don't like facial hair on Pentecostal women.
do you have any scripture for that?

Seriously though, the facial hair police in churches is ludicrous. Is he going to freak out when he gets to heaven and sees bearded men?
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m

Read the comments on the blog--LOL. Just as crazy!
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Well I hate to say it but I don't attend a local Church. I do believe in the local Church and was an Elder/Pastor for 13 years. For over 10 years until recently I met as a teacher with a group on a voice active chat program Palktalk.com

Last year we did try a local UPC Church. Same old "standards". Added together with pre trib rapture and no vision I could not do it.

I visited an Assembly Of God Church about a month ago on the basis they teach the post trib rapture. Don't see much future for a dogmatic Oneness Pentecostal there! Nonetheless I may visit there occasionally to have something to do.

I am still meeting with various groups of believers on Paltalk. It is there that I have ministered to far more people than anywhere else.

I yet have hope that before I die I will find a solid New Testament Church. How are you making it?
I have tried several options. Over 5 years ago I attended an AOG church that often had spirit baptisms and had a really good men's Sunday school class. I told the assistant pastor that I was oneness and they put me on the black list. After that they were very guarded. I have many young kids, so I want them to have Sunday school interaction. Thus, we go to a large non denominational church, but I am not actively involved.
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