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Old 06-04-2014, 01:09 AM
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Consider that some people conform, but not because they believe something is right (or wrong) to do. That uniformity is not unity, IMO.
Sure it is! They CONFORM to keep UNITY. Unity doesn't mean "we all believe exactly alike", though it can. Unity is a broad term.

People agree to do or practice things not necessarily because they believe it's right but because the rest of the union (the group) believes it or the group has declared it's a necessity to be a part of the group

For example, if you worked at a store that had a dress code you might not agree with it, but if you wanted to work there you have to keep it..

So there is Unity in purpose.

Oh yes you can be sure uniformity and conformity can be a UNION
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No, unity is not uniformity. Go and learn what this meaneth.
You reversed what I said, Go and learneth how to readeth.

I said Uniformity is Unity. I did not say Unity is Uniformity.

Yes Uniformity is Unity

In fact Uniformity is a SYNONYM for Unity

http://thesaurus.com/browse/unity?__..._utmk=30521023

But go thou and learneth what that meaneth beforeth you talketh to me-eth
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Read what I said again. I never supported it. I explained WHY some churches allow facial hair but not on the platform.

Nobody was arguing we should all have a uniform
I know bro. I just threw that out there.
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Do people agree with that whole Godly custom statement he made? Again, he tries to imply that not having facial hair is Godly.
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Do people agree with that whole Godly custom statement he made? Again, he tries to imply that not having facial hair is Godly.
Well
Aaron had a beard
David Had a beard
Jermiah had a beard
Others probably had a beard, but the scriptures do not mention it.
Jesus HAD A BEARD, isn't he GODLY, can anyone be more GODLY than Jesus?
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Well
Aaron had a beard
David Had a beard
Jermiah had a beard
Others probably had a beard, but the scriptures do not mention it.
Jesus HAD A BEARD, isn't he GODLY, can anyone be more GODLY than Jesus?
But hippies had beards! Hells Angels have beards! Its stupid. They want to impress all the biblical standards of dress on people, except this. Its makes zero sense!
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But hippies had beards! Hells Angels have beards! Its stupid. They want to impress all the biblical standards of dress on people, except this. Its makes zero sense!
The Amish have beards.
The Jewish rabbis have beards
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The Amish have beards.
The Jewish rabbis have beards
Yup. If a beard is good enough for GODs chosen people why not for his bride? The stance is pathetic at best.
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m

Teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. This is a perfect example of exta-biblical legalism.
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Do people agree with that whole Godly custom statement he made? Again, he tries to imply that not having facial hair is Godly.
I don't agree with anything he said.
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