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Old 01-10-2021, 10:07 AM
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PASTORS, what are you going to do?

Dear pastors or ministering Brethren,

In the next few years we are going to see a much more concentrated attack against organized church as we have known it in the past.

The anti Christ forces are going to attack the tax exempt status of religion thus adding extreme costs to property, they are going to take away the exemption of having to report every year of the finances, they are going to want to tax the income...

What are you going to do in the next few years when the big building that you have spent hundreds of thousands, possibly millions on, is now going to be taxed to fund the beast that now is formed in DC? Of course they might give a pass to those who "work" with the new requirements.

Are you going to "work" with the system in order to protect your assets?

Are you willing to lose that big building in order to do what God wants you to do?

What about when that big salary goes away because you no longer are able to have the building to draw the big crowds? Are you going to bend at the knee to the rulers of facebook and zoom in order to keep the crowds? Even though you used to preach against TV and televangelists you find that in order now to keep the crowds that YOU must now turn to the same technology that you once condemned. Remember when Mark Hamby was kicked out of the Pentecostal crowd for preaching on TV? Now the very vehicle that kicked him out is doing the same thing that he wanted to do.

It is amazing how this thing is working out. Pastors and ministers who once stood for righteousness have now became youtube pastors. But what happens when God moves on you to preach something, you put it on youtube, and youtube removes it? Are you going to dilute your message to appease the new overlords? What are you going to do?

I believe that we are going to see lots of the big churches in Pentecost go away... unless they knuckle under to the system. This we have ALREADY seen with the recent vaccine requirements cropping up. "Do what they want you to do" are the cries of superintendents and religious leaders. Pastor, Evangelist, Minister... what are you going to do?

Are you prepared to go underground in order to do the work of the Lord?

Are you prepared to lose your building to do the work of the Lord?

Does the "Pride of Life" that comes with prestige prevent you from being ready to do the work of the Lord?

Are you ready to take a pay cut in order to do the work of the Lord?

I fear that with many in the Apostolic / Pentecostal ranks they have already declared what they are going to do. They are not ready for what is coming and will have trouble acclimating to the new norm.

Pastors, what are you going to do?
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Old 01-10-2021, 10:24 AM
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Dear pastors or ministering Brethren,

In the next few years we are going to see a much more concentrated attack against organized church as we have known it in the past.

The anti Christ forces are going to attack the tax exempt status of religion thus adding extreme costs to property, they are going to take away the exemption of having to report every year of the finances, they are going to want to tax the income...

What are you going to do in the next few years when the big building that you have spent hundreds of thousands, possibly millions on, is now going to be taxed to fund the beast that now is formed in DC? Of course they might give a pass to those who "work" with the new requirements.

Are you going to "work" with the system in order to protect your assets?

Are you willing to lose that big building in order to do what God wants you to do?

What about when that big salary goes away because you no longer are able to have the building to draw the big crowds? Are you going to bend at the knee to the rulers of facebook and zoom in order to keep the crowds? Even though you used to preach against TV and televangelists you find that in order now to keep the crowds that YOU must now turn to the same technology that you once condemned. Remember when Mark Hamby was kicked out of the Pentecostal crowd for preaching on TV? Now the very vehicle that kicked him out is doing the same thing that he wanted to do.

It is amazing how this thing is working out. Pastors and ministers who once stood for righteousness have now became youtube pastors. But what happens when God moves on you to preach something, you put it on youtube, and youtube removes it? Are you going to dilute your message to appease the new overlords? What are you going to do?

I believe that we are going to see lots of the big churches in Pentecost go away... unless they knuckle under to the system. This we have ALREADY seen with the recent vaccine requirements cropping up. "Do what they want you to do" are the cries of superintendents and religious leaders. Pastor, Evangelist, Minister... what are you going to do?

Are you prepared to go underground in order to do the work of the Lord?

Are you prepared to lose your building to do the work of the Lord?

Does the "Pride of Life" that comes with prestige prevent you from being ready to do the work of the Lord?

Are you ready to take a pay cut in order to do the work of the Lord?

I fear that with many in the Apostolic / Pentecostal ranks they have already declared what they are going to do. They are not ready for what is coming and will have trouble acclimating to the new norm.

Pastors, what are you going to do?

The vision I had in 2017 is coming true.
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Old 01-10-2021, 10:42 AM
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Re: PASTORS, what are you going to do?

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Dear pastors or ministering Brethren,

In the next few years we are going to see a much more concentrated attack against organized church as we have known it in the past.

The anti Christ forces are going to attack the tax exempt status of religion thus adding extreme costs to property, they are going to take away the exemption of having to report every year of the finances, they are going to want to tax the income...

What are you going to do in the next few years when the big building that you have spent hundreds of thousands, possibly millions on, is now going to be taxed to fund the beast that now is formed in DC? Of course they might give a pass to those who "work" with the new requirements.

Are you going to "work" with the system in order to protect your assets?

Are you willing to lose that big building in order to do what God wants you to do?

What about when that big salary goes away because you no longer are able to have the building to draw the big crowds? Are you going to bend at the knee to the rulers of facebook and zoom in order to keep the crowds? Even though you used to preach against TV and televangelists you find that in order now to keep the crowds that YOU must now turn to the same technology that you once condemned. Remember when Mark Hamby was kicked out of the Pentecostal crowd for preaching on TV? Now the very vehicle that kicked him out is doing the same thing that he wanted to do.

It is amazing how this thing is working out. Pastors and ministers who once stood for righteousness have now became youtube pastors. But what happens when God moves on you to preach something, you put it on youtube, and youtube removes it? Are you going to dilute your message to appease the new overlords? What are you going to do?

I believe that we are going to see lots of the big churches in Pentecost go away... unless they knuckle under to the system. This we have ALREADY seen with the recent vaccine requirements cropping up. "Do what they want you to do" are the cries of superintendents and religious leaders. Pastor, Evangelist, Minister... what are you going to do?

Are you prepared to go underground in order to do the work of the Lord?

Are you prepared to lose your building to do the work of the Lord?

Does the "Pride of Life" that comes with prestige prevent you from being ready to do the work of the Lord?

Are you ready to take a pay cut in order to do the work of the Lord?

I fear that with many in the Apostolic / Pentecostal ranks they have already declared what they are going to do. They are not ready for what is coming and will have trouble acclimating to the new norm.

Pastors, what are you going to do?
I've been "underground" since the 90s. We network outside of the whole "building-salary-income stream-501c3" paradigm. Not even missing a beat.
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Old 01-10-2021, 12:08 PM
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I've been "underground" since the 90s. We network outside of the whole "building-salary-income stream-501c3" paradigm. Not even missing a beat.

Well look at you all ahead of the curve. 🤣
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Old 01-10-2021, 12:25 PM
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Old 01-10-2021, 12:28 PM
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The vision I had in 2017 is coming true.
Yeah? What was your vision?
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Old 01-10-2021, 02:10 PM
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Yeah? What was your vision?

It was of a church building being dismantled by giant hands...the people that scattered outside from inside were small as ants and as they fled the building they started fires on the outside of the building...like they were living torches...almostlike when Sampson tied the foxs together by their tails and lit them on fire and released them into the fields of the Philestines...and a voice spoke forcefully that said,"I WILL have a church...even if I have to scatter them before me."





This happened in 2017 while I was driving my dad home from a doctors appointment...the impression I got was that something was coming that would move the Church out of the building and God was going to do it and once that happened....well....things would be set ablaze...Im understanding that to be in a spiritual way so Im guess that this shakeup is going to trigger some firey revival and God was willing to cause some displacement to accomplish His purpose.
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Dear pastors or ministering Brethren,

In the next few years we are going to see a much more concentrated attack against organized church as we have known it in the past.

The anti Christ forces are going to attack the tax exempt status of religion thus adding extreme costs to property, they are going to take away the exemption of having to report every year of the finances, they are going to want to tax the income...

What are you going to do in the next few years when the big building that you have spent hundreds of thousands, possibly millions on, is now going to be taxed to fund the beast that now is formed in DC? Of course they might give a pass to those who "work" with the new requirements.

Are you going to "work" with the system in order to protect your assets?

Are you willing to lose that big building in order to do what God wants you to do?

What about when that big salary goes away because you no longer are able to have the building to draw the big crowds? Are you going to bend at the knee to the rulers of facebook and zoom in order to keep the crowds? Even though you used to preach against TV and televangelists you find that in order now to keep the crowds that YOU must now turn to the same technology that you once condemned. Remember when Mark Hamby was kicked out of the Pentecostal crowd for preaching on TV? Now the very vehicle that kicked him out is doing the same thing that he wanted to do.

It is amazing how this thing is working out. Pastors and ministers who once stood for righteousness have now became youtube pastors. But what happens when God moves on you to preach something, you put it on youtube, and youtube removes it? Are you going to dilute your message to appease the new overlords? What are you going to do?

I believe that we are going to see lots of the big churches in Pentecost go away... unless they knuckle under to the system. This we have ALREADY seen with the recent vaccine requirements cropping up. "Do what they want you to do" are the cries of superintendents and religious leaders. Pastor, Evangelist, Minister... what are you going to do?

Are you prepared to go underground in order to do the work of the Lord?

Are you prepared to lose your building to do the work of the Lord?

Does the "Pride of Life" that comes with prestige prevent you from being ready to do the work of the Lord?

Are you ready to take a pay cut in order to do the work of the Lord?

I fear that with many in the Apostolic / Pentecostal ranks they have already declared what they are going to do. They are not ready for what is coming and will have trouble acclimating to the new norm.

Pastors, what are you going to do?

Are you having a Dispensationalist moment?
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