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Old 12-10-2019, 06:10 PM
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Repentance in Acts 2:38

In Acts 2:38, what does it mean to "repent," and when someone repents, what is their status before God, or what does it accomplish?
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Repentance and baptism are inseparable for the remission of sins, just as the wedding vows, and the wedding night are both required for one to be actually married
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Repentance and baptism are inseparable for the remission of sins, just as the wedding vows, and the wedding night are both required for one to be actually married
What does repent mean, though? What does it accomplish?
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Re: Repentance in Acts 2:38

If you were told "Hey, stop sinning and get baptised in Jesus name so your sins will be forgiven" would you have a hard time understanding that?
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If you were told "Hey, stop sinning and get baptised in Jesus name so your sins will be forgiven" would you have a hard time understanding that?
Repent means "stop sinning"? Is there no forgiveness at all till baptism? I ask because I was reading the section on repentance in David Bernard's book The New Birth, and he asserts that repentance partially effects forgiveness and baptism completes forgiveness. He argues this, it seems, because he is trying to account for how people can receive the Spirit before baptism even though their sins are still fully against them--which they would be if there is no forgiveness till baptism.
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Re: Repentance in Acts 2:38

Acts 2:38 is a response from Simon about what the audience ought to do regarding the fact they've just realized that God made Jesus both Lord and Christ, and that they crucified Him.

Repentance therefore in Acts 2:38 is a combination of the following:

- Realizing, believing, and confessing that Jesus is Lord by the will and edict of God
- Realizing, believing, and confessing that Jesus is the Messiah by the will and edict of God
- In light of these two things, realizing, believing, and confessing that you had the by the will and edict of God Lord and Messiah murdered

If and when you realize, believe, and confess these things, you should be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus so your sin (crucifying the One God made Lord and Christ) may be forgiven.
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Repent means "stop sinning"? Is there no forgiveness at all till baptism? I ask because I was reading the section on repentance in David Bernard's book The New Birth, and he asserts that repentance partially effects forgiveness and baptism completes forgiveness. He argues this, it seems, because he is trying to account for how people can receive the Spirit before baptism even though their sins are still fully against them--which they would be if there is no forgiveness till baptism.
BpopulBernard - and you - are still viewing repentance as the old "first trip to the altar" scenario left over from Wesleyan Pentecostal and Baptist influences, where repentance is a particular liturgical action usually involving a crying/confessing spell at an altar rail or bedside leading to a catharsis that is mistaken for "justification".

Biblically, repentance means turning back to God, so is not a particular step in a 2 or 3 step process but a more general term like "get right with God".

Remission of sins for the alien uncovenanted sinner is experienced in baptism. And remission and forgiveness are identical words in Greek.
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BpopulBernard - and you - are still viewing repentance as the old "first trip to the altar" scenario left over from Wesleyan Pentecostal and Baptist influences, where repentance is a particular liturgical action usually involving a crying/confessing spell at an altar rail or bedside leading to a catharsis that is mistaken for "justification".

Biblically, repentance means turning back to God, so is not a particular step in a 2 or 3 step process but a more general term like "get right with God".

Remission of sins for the alien uncovenanted sinner is experienced in baptism. And remission and forgiveness are identical words in Greek.
Your second and third paragraphs alone would have been a great response to my initial post.
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