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Old 04-30-2007, 10:20 AM
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Okay Except a man be born of Spirit and of Spirit????
There are three that bear witness the blood-Spirit-Spirit
Out of his side came blood and spirit?
Into thy hands I commend my water?
The water is willing but the flesh is weak?
Philip and the Eunuch wnet down into the Spirit and came up out of the Spirit and the WATER carried him away.

And I am theologically challenged??????????????????
Rivers of Living Water ... helllllllllooooooooooooo

washing of the word .... hellooooooooooo...
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:10 PM
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NOW you are sounding like your Dad!!!!!!!
Bro Epley,
I do believe many things in the same manner as yourself. Sorry if I have ever given you a hard time... The truth is still the truth.

God Bless.
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Old 04-30-2007, 11:19 PM
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Water represents the Spirit .... and Word also ... my theologically challenged friend.
Heb 9:22
Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin.

Heb 10:22 And our bodies are washed in pure water.

Romand 6:3-4 Know ye not, or in today's terms (Da!) that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death.

End of verse 4 so we also should walk in newness of life.

Repentence in Acts 2:38 application of baptism being baptized into Christ and his death. Translated dipped into the blood of the cross.

As Hebrews 10:22 puts it our bodies into pure water.

1 Peter 3:20-21 Eight were saved by water.

The key phrase is The like figure, once again the writer in today's term's (Da!) wereunto even baptism doth also "Now" save us.

Col 2:12 Buried with him baptism.....verse 13 hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses.

Does Christ forgive sin at repentance of once you are buried with him?

Repentance is from the Greek word Metanoia is primarily an after-thought, different from the former thought; a change of mind accompanied by regret and change of conduct, "change of mind and heart", or, "change of consciousness".

One of the key descriptions of repentance in the New Testament is the parable of the prodigal son found in the Gospel of Luke 15 beginning at verse 11.

Repentance and change of your mind and heart does not apply God's saving grace or redemption to your soul.

The application of the power in the blood of Jesus is applied at the death of the sinful nature in man inherited from Adam.

That death is applied in the pure waters of baptism in the Name of Jesus.

There was a death dealt to the high priest in the Tabernacle of another kind if he did not wash his hands.

Repent and change your human heart for the next 50 years of your life.

That does not apply the blood needed for the remission of sins...

As for the water representing the spirit or the word.

The act of water baptism is not representative of the spirit or the word.

It represents the connection of the death and burial of Jesus Christ...
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:32 PM
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Acts is the history of the church the Epistles are written to the saved. Dan along with Bernie is NOT a fan of Acts because the history of the Apostolic church given in Acts doesn't sound like the Baptist message they believe.
The ONLY way a man can recieve remission of sins in this dispensation after he has repented is to be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ. The invocation of the name in baptism remits past sins through obedience of faith in the shed blood of Calvary
It seems to me that the Epistles are just as strong in their presentation of the gospel. (E.G. Romans 6) The epistles often remind the readers of the gospel by which they were saved and explain its implications for faith and life. Paul reasserts the substance of the gospel repeatedly in his epistles, especially in 1 Cor. 15:1-6, and in refuting various false gospels throughout his epistles he, like John, contrasts the real gospel with the false ones. True believers need to be reminded again and again what the gospel is and helped to distinguish it clearly from false gospels. That is a major part of the burden of all the epistles.
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Old 05-08-2007, 07:14 AM
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It seems to me that the Epistles are just as strong in their presentation of the gospel. (E.G. Romans 6) The epistles often remind the readers of the gospel by which they were saved and explain its implications for faith and life. Paul reasserts the substance of the gospel repeatedly in his epistles, especially in 1 Cor. 15:1-6, and in refuting various false gospels throughout his epistles he, like John, contrasts the real gospel with the false ones. True believers need to be reminded again and again what the gospel is and helped to distinguish it clearly from false gospels. That is a major part of the burden of all the epistles.
True.
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Old 05-08-2007, 07:18 AM
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If we get the foundation doctrine wrong then the whole building is wrong. May the Lord help us all to understand His precious word.
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most of our Portuguese Bibles say for pardon of your sins but some say remission.
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