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Re: Two or three witnesses?

And, BTW, this has nothing to do with how many scriptures should be included in a sermon. Most of the time my "sermons" use entire chapters, or if not then a passage (never one verse) from an Epistle, from the Old Testament, and from a Gospel.
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Re: Two or three witnesses?

Psalm 10:4, "There is no God."
Psalm 14:1, "There is no God."
Psalm 53:1, "There is no God."

There you have it thrice.
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I suppose that it is not neccessary to have two scriptures to validate a doctrine. Although, if something is only in one isolated scripture it makes it hard to properly interpret. As Esaias quoted line upon line and precept upon precept. Doctrine is developed by rightly dividing the word of God. We can't randomly cherry pick a single verse and make a doctrine. We must read the scripture within context, and we must compare it with the rest of scriptures. If we are rightly dividing the Word, we should not have a conflict between passages of scripture.
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Re: Two or three witnesses?

When the oracles of God were first being delivered to the holy men of old, as they spoke and wrote, some, or even most of what they said or wrote, was completely original for the time, yet stood as the Word of God, and wasn't corroborated until perhaps centuries later, thereby indicating that a substantial doctrine was still true, and of the Word of God, without a second witness, at the time it was first delivered.

However, that being said, there are difficult verses in the Bible that have no corresponding verses to offer fuller understanding. Baptism for the dead comes to mind. There's been a lot of speculation, and some have even created doctrines around the practice, but without more information on the subject, it's not a good idea to teach the verse a certain way, authoritatively. But these are few and far between. Almost all verses of the Bible can be understood contextually, grammatically, and historically, whether corroborated by other verses or passages, or not.

Notwithstanding, what Esaias wrote is correct. The second or third witness is always used in the context of judicial punishment for crime or sin. The every "word" mentioned is the word of the witnesses testifying against the defendant.
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Psalm 10:4, "There is no God."
Psalm 14:1, "There is no God."
Psalm 53:1, "There is no God."

There you have it thrice.
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I suppose that it is not neccessary to have two scriptures to validate a doctrine. Although, if something is only in one isolated scripture it makes it hard to properly interpret. As Esaias quoted line upon line and precept upon precept. Doctrine is developed by rightly dividing the word of God. We can't randomly cherry pick a single verse and make a doctrine. We must read the scripture within context, and we must compare it with the rest of scriptures. If we are rightly dividing the Word, we should not have a conflict between passages of scripture.
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When the oracles of God were first being delivered to the holy men of old, as they spoke and wrote, some, or even most of what they said or wrote, was completely original for the time, yet stood as the Word of God, and wasn't corroborated until perhaps centuries later, thereby indicating that a substantial doctrine was still true, and of the Word of God, without a second witness, at the time it was first delivered.

However, that being said, there are difficult verses in the Bible that have no corresponding verses to offer fuller understanding. Baptism for the dead comes to mind. There's been a lot of speculation, and some have even created doctrines around the practice, but without more information on the subject, it's not a good idea to teach the verse a certain way, authoritatively. But these are few and far between. Almost all verses of the Bible can be understood contextually, grammatically, and historically, whether corroborated by other verses or passages, or not.

Notwithstanding, what Esaias wrote is correct. The second or third witness is always used in the context of judicial punishment for crime or sin. The every "word" mentioned is the word of the witnesses testifying against the defendant.
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