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12-30-2013, 02:58 PM
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Re: committing suicide with a fork
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It not only misses the mark in failing to address it, but appears (and is) blatantly hypocritical to those who struggle with the sins/lifestyles that are being preached against while those who are accepted in the church are possible gluttons.
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I feel like you're trying to force me to use the *H* word.  
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12-30-2013, 03:02 PM
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Re: committing suicide with a fork
Pro 23:2.. ..And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite.
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12-30-2013, 03:04 PM
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Re: committing suicide with a fork
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Pro 23:2.. ..And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite.
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Strong words. 
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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12-30-2013, 03:38 PM
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Re: committing suicide with a fork
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I feel like you're trying to force me to use the *H* word. |
Sorry, not sure what you mean.  (???)
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12-30-2013, 03:41 PM
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Re: committing suicide with a fork
thanks for the prospective.. Your right, many times sinners do look at you with a microscope.
I was told, if your full, and still keep eating just to be eating, this is what is sin.
Also I didn't want to hurt anyones feelings, yes, many people can be over weight and eat like a bird.
The illustration was just the words he said. Not intended to judge others.
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12-30-2013, 04:40 PM
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Re: committing suicide with a fork
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Sorry, not sure what you mean. (???) |
*Hypocrite*
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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12-30-2013, 05:02 PM
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Re: committing suicide with a fork
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*Hypocrite*
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Oh. Well, of course I am not trying to force you to say anything!! But the word is the right one here. I said it myself.
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12-30-2013, 05:22 PM
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Re: committing suicide with a fork
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Oh. Well, of course I am not trying to force you to say anything!! But the word is the right one here. I said it myself. |
I know it is.  At the very least, it's the right word to describe the fervor in addressing addictions like drugs and alcohol versus the complete lack of attention paid to food addiction/overeating.
I thought about what I said earlier on the thread about approaching gluttony with compassion and understanding for the "complicating" issues, and I realized that any effective approach to addiction does that. When people struggle with alcoholism, for instance, you can't simply say "Stop drinking" and leave it at that. Addicts have to completely change their lifestyle to support their new choice, or they will lapse right back into the addiction. The alcohol has to be removed from their environment, the places they hang out have to change, and relationships that are destructive or enabling may even have to be cut off. There are family and community systems (including in the church) that support gluttony in the very same way that others support alcohol addiction. Family members who are always trying to feed you sugary, fatty foods, family time that centers around eating, socializing that's all about food, etc. We would be shocked if the church served alcohol to people struggling with addiction to alcohol, but no one seems to care if obese people are presented with huge arrays of unhealthy food and encouraged to eat it.
It is a huge problem, NPI.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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12-31-2013, 10:21 AM
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Re: committing suicide with a fork
Sister Alvear, I'm curious if any of those 'treatments' involved climbing stairs...
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