Sid Roth, Branham, Cain, and Reed

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Esaias

That is not the same as a supposed elder in God's church publicly declaring someone outside the church is nevertheless a "prophet of God".

Exactly!

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So we can associate with idols, just not fellowship with them?

Sounds like hair splitting.

I think the false profits need to go broke. And I think believers need to quit being so open minded their common sense falls out. If a person teaches false doctrine and heresy, they get rebuked twice or thrice, and then the believer should move on and treat them the same way heathens and tax collectors are to be treated. That is, they are simply outsiders like anybody else.

So how does that relate to the "association" we have on this forum?

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So how does that relate to the "association" we have on this forum?

We have forum rules:

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...69&postcount=1

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...56&postcount=1

[Amanah]

Our friendships on AFF are based on the following shared beliefs:

"Apostolic" as defined by AFF
Apostolic doctrines have been defined as the following:

There is one person of God revealing Himself as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

The Son is God himself in a human form, or "God manifested in the flesh."

Every sinner must repent of their sins.

Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.

The Holy Ghost baptism is for Christians today and may be received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.

The saint will strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.

Furthermore, we believe in the Oneness message, and that the Bible, in its entirety, is the Word of God, is without error, and that it is completely relevant for today. These core doctrines can only be discussed in the Debate Room.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Our friendships on AFF are based on the following shared beliefs:

"Apostolic" as defined by AFF
Apostolic doctrines have been defined as the following:

There is one person of God revealing Himself as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

The Son is God himself in a human form, or "God manifested in the flesh."

Every sinner must repent of their sins.

Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.

The Holy Ghost baptism is for Christians today and may be received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.

The saint will strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.

Furthermore, we believe in the Oneness message, and that the Bible, in its entirety, is the Word of God, is without error, and that it is completely relevant for today. These core doctrines can only be discussed in the Debate Room.

So heresy is defined only in context of Acts 2:38 and Oneness. I have been told my beliefs are heresy numerous times here. And I have said the same about others. And yet we are "associating" with each other sometimes daily.

This is what I meant by "associating" in contrast to "fellowship".

[Amanah]

Bro MTD, I understand what you are saying

[n david]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Our friendships on AFF are based on the following shared beliefs:

"Apostolic" as defined by AFF
Apostolic doctrines have been defined as the following:

There is one person of God revealing Himself as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

The Son is God himself in a human form, or "God manifested in the flesh."

Every sinner must repent of their sins.

Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.

The Holy Ghost baptism is for Christians today and may be received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.

The saint will strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.

Furthermore, we believe in the Oneness message, and that the Bible, in its entirety, is the Word of God, is without error, and that it is completely relevant for today. These core doctrines can only be discussed in the Debate Room.

There are members on AFF who do not believe this as documented in various threads.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I would be against FELLOWSHIP with them. But I would be against FELLOWSHIP with Preterists also.

There is a difference in "association" and "fellowship". Association can mean as little as you see someone somewhere and pass a few words with them up to having a connection with them in some other area.

Jesus was accused of being a friend of tax collectors and sinners because He was either sitting at dinner with them or they were near him when He was speaking to His followers.

The important thing to understand is that Jesus wasn't just hanging out with sinners to partake in their pleasures. Any association He had with them, such as sitting and eating with them, was for a purpose. And most of the time it was the tax collectors and sinners who were drawn to Jesus, never the other way around.

Regarding Tenney, Mangun, Franklin, etc: As I understand the story, Jentezen Franklin sought out TF Tenney during a difficult time with Jentezen's family. TF Tenney then introduced Franklin to the Manguns.

As mentioned previously, Anthony Mangun was asked to go on TBN with Franklin and the host, Tony Suarez, to speak on prayer and Mangun's book.

I don't believe we should be drawn to any celebrity, politician, or other personality, but they should be drawn to what is inside us. And when they are drawn to what's inside of us, we should be willing, and ready, to meet with them wherever and however possible to share the truth of the Word of God.

Unfortunately, there will always be some who will throw stones and accuse them of being compromisers and that they're "looking their way."

[Esaias]

Birds of a feather flock together, or something.

[1 God]

Furthermore, we believe in the Oneness message, and that the Bible, in its entirety, is the Word of God, is without error, and that it is completely relevant for today.

Which translation might that be?