Hacking elections

[1ofthechosen]

What about this? LOL

[Esaias]

In September, The California DMV said it has discovered it sent the Secretary of State’s Office 23,000 erroneous voter registrations.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ed-voter-rolls

[Esaias]

The Election Integrity Project California provides a list of 11 California counties that have more registered voters than voting-age citizens.

In addition, Los Angeles County officials informed the project that “the number of registered voters now stands at a number that is a whopping 144% of the total number of resident citizens of voting age.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...g-age-citizens

[Aquila]

If it is truly that easy to hack these voting machines, I'm thinking it has to be by design. And with all the multi-billion dollar corporations out there trying to secure the election for the candidate they bought, I believe corporate interests on both sides are hacking away trying to steal the elections. Now, of course, this would mean that whoever wins an election... won fraudulently.

I'm entertaining the notion that the time might have come to just abandon the state. Hopefully more and more people will begin to see this and do so. The last one to abandon the state can turn out the lights.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Aquila

If it is truly that easy to hack these voting machines, I'm thinking it has to be by design. And with all the multi-billion dollar corporations out there trying to secure the election for the candidate they bought, I believe corporate interests on both sides are hacking away trying to steal the elections. Now, of course, this would mean that whoever wins an election... won fraudulently.

I'm entertaining the notion that the time might have come to just abandon the state. Hopefully more and more people will begin to see this and do so. The last one to abandon the state can turn out the lights.

How do you "abandon" the state?

We are to submit to government and preach/teach the gospel.

1 Peter 2
13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
16 As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.
17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Amanah

How do you "abandon" the state?

There are many ways. The most extreme would be to live "off the grid". Other ways might be to involving one's self in matters of civil/government processes, systems, and programs as much as possible. The concept of mutualism and solidarity come into play. This can be expressed in forming private voluntary cooperatives and associations to pool resources and support one another and needs within one's community. There isn't a desire to rebel against the state, to tear down the state, or to wage a war of revolution. However, there is the desire to not be involved in state processes, systems, or programs as much as possible with no allegiance or loyalty to the state, but rather a disposition of non-affiliation with the state. All allegiance, loyalty, and devotion directed strictly to the spiritual Kingdom of God. It is an individual, non-violent, "revolution" of the heart and mind.

Some ways that Christians can abandon the state might be:

- Living off the grid.
- Living in intentional community.
- Fellowshipping in house churches.
- Believing in a radical separation of church & state.
- Practice pacifism and the non-aggression principle.
- Oppose war.
- Oppose serving on juries.
- Oppose oaths or testifying under oath.
- Abstain from voting.
- Oppose discrimination in all forms.
- Oppose pledging allegiance to the state.
- Opposing church incorporation.
- Opposing state minister's licensing.
- Opposing state marriage licensing.
- Affirming Christian sovereignty.
- Opposing institutional/incorporated religion.
- Oppose political partisanship within the church.
- Oppose institutionalized religious hierarchy and embracing decentralized eldership.
- Believe in shared stewardship over ownership.
- Embrace and practice the voluntary distribution of resources for the common good of one's Christian community.

We are to submit to government and preach/teach the gospel.

Yes, we submit to and comply with laws that serve safety and the common good. We are not to be violent or physically hostile to the state. We give due respect to officials, and pay our taxes, unless we can legally become tax exempt. And should the government require that we violate our "separateness" from it, or violate our Christian duties, we obey God over government, and accept whatever the cost might be.

I believe that Paul was telling us not to revolt. That we are to obey common laws and ordinances for the common good and give due respect to earthly authorities. But nowhere did Paul tell Christians to give "allegiance" to the Roman state or the Emperor. The state is an ordained necessary evil to restrain the greater evil of unrestrained wicked men. After all, Paul was eventually prosecuted and executed by the very same Roman state, as were countless other Christians who refused to bow to state authority when it clashed with their separateness or obedience to Christ. At the end of the day, we have no King but Jesus. And one day the kingdoms of this world will become the kingdoms of our God and of His Christ, and He shall reign for ever and ever.

[Aquila]

Sorry, in the above post I should have said, "Peter and Paul". Lol

[Esaias]

FBI’s smoking-gun: Redactions protected political embarrassment, not ‘national security’

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... last Wednesday, I broke the story that Baker admitted to Congress in an unclassified setting – repeat, in an unclassified setting – that he had met with a top lawyer at the firm representing the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and received allegations from that lawyer about Russia, Trump and possible hacking.

It was the same DNC, along with Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, that funded the unverified, salacious dossier by a British intel operative, Christopher Steele, that became a central piece of evidence used to justify the FBI surveillance of the Trump campaign in the final days of the election.

And it was the same law firm that made the payments for the dossier research so those could be disguised in campaign-spending reports to avoid the disclosure of the actual beneficiaries of the research, which were Mrs. Clinton and the DNC.

And it was, in turns out, the same meeting that was so heavily censored by the intel agencies from Footnote 43 in the House report – treated, in other words, as some big national-security secret.

What makes this so extraordinary is that the FBI and the DOJ would have Americans believe that a contact with a lawyer for a political party during the middle of the election is somehow a matter of national security that should be hidden from the public.

Well, that argument was proven to be a lie by the very way the interview with Baker played out last Wednesday on Capitol Hill. Baker was not interviewed in a "SCIF" – a "sensitive compartmented information facility" routinely used to discuss super-secret, highly sensitive information. There was no claim of classification over any information he provided Congress that day.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3694431/posts

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Amanah

How do you "abandon" the state?

It's called "being an outlaw", aka criminal anarchy. Ask any Bandito.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

It's called "being an outlaw", aka criminal anarchy. Ask any Bandito.

There are criminal anarchists. This isn't about that stripe. Christian anarchists are law abiding, but off the grid, or strive to be as uninvolved with the state as possible. They also are BIG on homeschooling, organic church, and intentional community. They are big advocates for voluntyeerism, and mutualism, with solidarity towards community.

Like you once said, the position is similar to the revival phase of Reconstructionism, but they refuse to take the step towards coercive religious statism. They also don't seek to follow OT law, instead they seek to form sovereign communities that live by NT principles grounded in loving one's neighbor.

They oppose and resist theonomy as much as they resist secular statism. In fact, they see theonomic statism as the greater of the two evils, because it is statism claiming divine prerogative. This is equated with blasphemy.

Most are pacifists, presenting no physical threat to the state or anyone else. But their belief system poses the greatest threat to statism as a whole, be it secular or religious. For they see their sovereignty as the purest expression of the very Kingdom of God on Earth.