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Old 09-18-2020, 10:30 AM
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So, around a year ago my pastor started doing this "Financial declaration" when taking up tithes and offering. I don't want to turn this into a debate about tithes, there's enough threads on that topic, but I want to get people's opinion on the actual statement that he (or whomever is on the platform at that time) reads and has the rest of the congregation recite together. I have my own opinion on it already, so I'm just going to sit back and read what you all have to say on the matter for now.
What happens the first time someone that’s paying tithes loses their job?
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Thank God someone else said it so I didn't have to! I do financially support my church with "Tithes", but this is wrong on so many levels. As a teacher, I have no authority from God or otherwise to mandate something that is not in the Bible - including making up phrases on Biblical concepts - that is absurd.

Tithes as it is taught today is NOT BIBLICAL - and yes, I have heard Apostolic Bishops who have been preaching truth for over 50-years openly admit that the way it is taught today is not Biblical.

I give because the principle is right and Biblical, not because the doctrine is correct.
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You’re right.

He’s wrong.
You're right about I'm right that he's wrong.
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I have heard Apostolic Bishops who have been preaching truth for over 50-years openly admit that the way it is taught today is not Biblical.
Wait what? I want to know more about that! That's actually great news!
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Wait what? I want to know more about that! That's actually great news!
He’s lying.
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What happens the first time someone that’s paying tithes loses their job?
When someone loses their job? Why they get a better one of course! Unless they’re not paying their tithes.

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Upon the authority of Your Word, I have given and it shall be given to me, pressed down, shaken together and running over.
I am a tither, I bring my tithe today into your storehouse, therefore the enemy is rebuked and the curse is broken.
I live under and open heaven, You pour out upon me such a blessing that there is not enough room to receive it.
We receive jobs and better jobs, raises and bonuses, sales and commissions, benefits and settlements, estates and inheritance, interests and income, rebates and returns, checks in the mail, gifts and surprises, bills paid off, debts demolished, royalties received, my whole family saved and walking with God, perfect health and abundance to walk in divine favor and blessings.
I am blessed going in, and I am blessed going out. All that I do will prosper in Jesus name!

This is the prosperity doctrine. Promoted by the man who went up in the prayer tower and said God was gonna take him home unless his followers gave $8,000,000. Many of the television evangelists were mentored by him. People believe that they can lie and if God or the church benefits it’s okay. It didn’t work for Oral Roberts. It was proven to be a scam. But a lot of people still try it.
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What happens the first time someone that’s paying tithes loses their job?
This reminds me of the thread I started on the half shekel doctrine. One of the promises was that if you paid the half shekel you would not contract any communicable diseases. In light of the corona virus, I can testify that I know people personally who taught this doctrine that got covid. The truth will prevail.
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Wait what? I want to know more about that! That's actually great news!
I know a man who pastored at least three churches spanning over forty years. I asked him about the veracity of the tithe doctrine. His answer was that we (he is UPC so I’m assuming he meant the organization) have a lot of preachers who don’t really know the Bible.
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What happens the first time someone that’s paying tithes loses their job?
Everyone I know has been trying to rebuke the devourer(except unbelievers) all their saved days. It has become the daily nightmare of the saint, with the devourer standing there waiting to devour them. The RCC really pulled a fast one on Christendom.
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