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Old 05-18-2017, 12:10 PM
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:18 PM
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leave nDavid alone!
Go back and read. He unleashed on me. I just made a simple statement about what I was taught. Jeesh. lol

The topic is silly anyway.

Evidently, David never had sexual thoughts and feelings about his wife before they were married. I applaud him. But... I confess... she was everything I ever wanted. I couldn't get her off my mind. Everything about her was magic. She was interwoven in every thought and desire I had until that wedding day.

Of course... today I kinda just wish she'd not talk so much. But that's just the way things are. lol
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:20 PM
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I sometimes day dream about having a brand new Dodge Charger.... oh noooooo.... I've sinned. I'm coveting. Oh noooooo. LOL

Thoughts and intents people. Thoughts and intents. True spirituality is balanced and real. And in my almost 30 years of being a born again Apostolic, I've learned that it's typically the empty can that rattle the most.

Christ's point was, you intend on using a woman you're gazing upon.... you've sinned in your heart long before you even ask her name.

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Old 05-18-2017, 12:23 PM
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I sometimes day dream about having a brand new Dodge Charger.... oh noooooo.... I've sinned. I'm coveting. Oh noooooo. LOL

Thoughts and intents people. Thoughts and intents.

If you intend on using a woman you're gazing upon.... you've sinned before you even ask her name.
come over to my Trinity thread and type up a definition of how you think Trinitarians define the Trinity.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:25 PM
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come over to my Trinity thread and type up a definition of how you think Trinitarians define the Trinity.
Ummm. Can you say, boring? LOL
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:32 PM
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You know guys... if they ever do pass a universal healthcare bill... it will most likely have mental health provisions.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:34 PM
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Intent.

Again, the issue is intent.
Intent? There's not a bit of difference between a guy watching a porn video to satisfy his lust and a guy closing his eyes to imagine the same thing to satisfy his lust.


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Close attention to Christ's words...
Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
This describes a man gazing upon a woman with the intention of using and exploiting her. This isn't the fantasy of a single person who has no intention of using and exploiting someone.
smh So your commentary of Matthew 5:28 is that Jesus was saying it's only sin to look and lust after a woman if you want to use and exploit her??

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Also, Jesus uses the word "adultery". Which means the man who is gazing at a woman is married to another.
Oh, so Jesus was only talking about married men, right? Somewhere Jesus later mentioned that His words there aren't applicable to single men.

What version of the Bible are you reading?!

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Do you really think God intended people not to have sexual attraction, interest, thoughts, or desires for one another prior to marriage?
Sexual attraction is not the same as using your mind to enact a porn scene.

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Your Christianity is rather fake and robotic.
And uptight, don't forget uptight!

I guess I should be more like you and others who go even further and watch porn with their spouses and trade partners.

Man, this whole bringing my flesh into subjection is just a bummer! Paul was so uptight!


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Look at the Song of Solomon. Each of the lovers spend quite a bit of time fantasizing about each other. And take note... they aren't married until chapter 4.
Read it again. They didn't fantasize sexually about each other chapter 4, which was after the marriage at the end of chapter 3.


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It's normal and healthy to find the opposite sex attractive. It's also normal and healthy to have sexual thoughts and desires.
Again, finding someone attractive and putting that person in your own private porn show are two different things. Sin always presents itself as something "normal and healthy." What is normal and healthy isn't always holy, and that's what blows your argument away.


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It's even normal and healthy to have sexual thoughts and desires about the woman you want to marry.

What is sin is when a married man gazes upon a woman who isn't his wife and has sexual thoughts and desires that he intends to act upon.
One sentence doesn't match the other. Can't claim both.
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Old 05-18-2017, 01:07 PM
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Why say such a thing about my pastor without even knowing him or allowing him to defend himself?

I think someone's pastor was superstitious and afraid of sex, perhaps even his own male sexuality, and now they have hang-ups about a normal and healthy aspect of their manhood. lol
Not at all. Again, not everything "normal and healthy" is holy. You (or your pastor) cannot claim that fantasizing about sex with a woman in your mind is okay because it's not lust. Fantasizing is lust is sin. Sorrynotsorry.
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Old 05-18-2017, 01:09 PM
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Thank you, but it's okay.
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Old 05-18-2017, 01:14 PM
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Go back and read. He unleashed on me. I just made a simple statement about what I was taught. Jeesh. lol

The topic is silly anyway.

Evidently, David never had sexual thoughts and feelings about his wife before they were married. I applaud him. But... I confess... she was everything I ever wanted. I couldn't get her off my mind. Everything about her was magic. She was interwoven in every thought and desire I had until that wedding day.

Of course... today I kinda just wish she'd not talk so much. But that's just the way things are. lol
I met and married my wife within a few months. I followed Paul's advice.

I'm not going to claim that I wasn't sexually attracted to her, obviously I was and still am or we wouldn't have 3 kids.

But the marriage bed is undefiled, and that requires me bringing my flesh and physical desires under control. I'm not a prude, but I'm not lascivious either.
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