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Old 11-13-2017, 11:33 PM
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Re: Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy

Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.





Brethren, if you think the devil is taking a wrecking ball to your life now, wait til God sicks the devil on you, as an inhabitant of the earth during the great tribulation.

You aint seen nothin yet.(post trib thinking).

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Old 11-13-2017, 11:37 PM
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Oh, and dont forget, Jesus loves you(post tribber).
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:44 PM
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Post tribbers believe the Spirit filled saints will seek death and not find it.....



And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.



But, Jesus loves them no matter what agony his Bride has to endure at His hands.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:49 PM
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3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.




These evil things will drive the Spirit filled saints insane(if they are post trib saints).





Lucky for the 144,000 Jews at least, huh?
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:54 PM
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Post tribbers also think the Spirit filled saints must endure this awful event, sent by God, with 1/3rd of the people in the world slain by evil entities.....



15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:58 PM
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Revelation 3:10King James Version (KJV)

10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.


Thank you Jesus.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:19 AM
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His NAME is Jesus!

Esaias has posted some very interesting points which cannot be refuterd: they
may certainly be denied, but not refuted. Look to the days of creation:
Day 2: "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst
of the waters, and let it DIVIDE the waters from the waters."
There has
always been a division between God's chosen people, and the earthly people;
between cattle and cattle; between the sheep and the goats. God also made
a difference (a division) between the Egyptians and the his people living in the
Land of Goshen: the plagues did not affect them in Goshen! Why? God knows
how to make a difference.

Beloved, you must realize that there is also a very huge difference between the
persecution of the saints, and the tribulation that will befall the world. The
world hates us (God's people); and it will try to kill us. but the tribulation is
not meant for the saints: it is meant to draw to repentance as many that
may be saved!

If anyone insists that the tribulation is NOT for the saints, they are correct. It is
NOT FOR THE SAINTS: it is for those "borderline" believers, that they may call
upon the Lord. And please don't mistake the tribulation as a penalty for those
who are disobedient. No: that's what the Lake of Fire is for!

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Revelation 3:10King James Version (KJV)

10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.


Thank you Jesus.
As is usually the case with heresies, the proponents of said heresies never can point to a passage which directly teaches what they teach. No pre trib rapture proponent can point to a passage which clearly and unequivocally declares that the coming of the Lord and our gathering together with Him will occur BEFORE the apostasy, the revealing of the man of sin, and his destruction. Not one passage.

Instead, they kerfuffle and herharrumfle from this to that to that other thing off yonder, always dancing around the actual plain statements of scripture.

Pre trib is heretical, unbiblical, non apostolic nonsense. Invented in the 1830s by a (false) prophetess named Margaret MacDonald, picked up by the Brethren movement who gave us both heresies of dispensationalism and pre trib rapturism, and popularised by Cyrus Scofield, a rascal's rascal and an undeniably fraudulent huckster.
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EVERY SINGLE "PROOF TEXT" the rapturists use in support of their claim can be explained within a post trib rapture understanding.

But there are numerous proof texts used which prove a "post trib" resurrection of the saints that CANNOT BE HARMONIZED WITH THE PRE TRIB RAPTURE TEACHING.

Furthermore, there is NOT ONE SINGLE TEXT OF SCRIPTURE which actualy states the pre trib doctrine. Just like the trinity doctrine, pre trib rapturism is based upon supposition, eisegesis, interpretation, opinion, and exegetical gymnastics. Whereas the truth is based upon the plain and simple declarations of the Scriptures where they speak on the very subject.
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there is NOT ONE SINGLE TEXT OF SCRIPTURE which actually states the pre trib doctrine.
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