LS to Teach Light Doctrine @ Landmark 2011???? - Page 21

Ev. Duane Williams · #**201** 01-31-2011, 06:43 PM

What is being called the "Light Doctrine" has some very firm roots in Scripture. If we are "Kings and Priests" in the Kingdom of God, then over whom do we rule(King), or for whom do we make intercession to God(Priest)?

Are those who live their entire lives and die without ever hearing the Acts 2:38 message just destined for damnation? Isn't this Calvinism, Apostolic style? Just askin'.

johnny44 · #**202** 01-31-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76

Can you explain this?
I just read a book about Smith Wigglesworth and he believed that all Christians should receive the Holy Spirit by speaking in tongues.
The book was "The Secret of his power", by Albert Hibbert, I believe.

Read "Wigglesworth on the annointing" page 72.Don"t have the book with me now.

aegsm76 · #**203** 01-31-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny44

Read "Wigglesworth on the annointing" page 72.Don"t have the book with me now.

Here is what he says on p. 110:
"When I was in Sunderland in 1907, I knelt before God and had an Acts 2:4 experience: I received the Holy Spirit and spoke with new tongues as did that company on the day of Pentecost. That put my experience outside the range of argument, but inside the record of God's Word. God gave me the Holy Spirit as He did to them at the beginning. I want harmony, unity, and oneness, but I want them God's way. In the Acts of the Apostles, speaking with new tongues was the sign of the infilling and outflowing of the Holy Spirit. I do not believe that God has changed His methods."

This seems pretty clear to me where he stood, at least on the Holy Ghost.

johnny44 · #**204** 01-31-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76

Here is what he says on p. 110:
"When I was in Sunderland in 1907, I knelt before God and had an Acts 2:4 experience: I received the Holy Spirit and spoke with new tongues as did that company on the day of Pentecost. That put my experience outside the range of argument, but inside the record of God's Word. God gave me the Holy Spirit as He did to them at the beginning. I want harmony, unity, and oneness, but I want them God's way. In the Acts of the Apostles, speaking with new tongues was the sign of the infilling and outflowing of the Holy Spirit. I do not believe that God has changed His methods."

This seems pretty clear to me where he stood, at least on the Holy Ghost.

Sorry I was refering to baptism in the name of Jesus Christ.

Praxeas · #**205** 02-01-2011, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams

What is being called the "Light Doctrine" has some very firm roots in Scripture. If we are "Kings and Priests" in the Kingdom of God, then over whom do we rule(King), or for whom do we make intercession to God(Priest)?

Are those who live their entire lives and die without ever hearing the Acts 2:38 message just destined for damnation? Isn't this Calvinism, Apostolic style? Just askin'.

Those that are left behind after the Judgment?

Praxeas · #**206** 02-01-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Yeah, but he was the "healing guru." I've heard many UC's praise Wigglesworth over the years.

I think I heard TW Barnes mention him in the context of powerful prayers

Praxeas · #**207** 02-01-2011, 08:39 PM

Where does the bible give a get out of jail free card to "Ministers". My bible says we are all a kingdom of priests...if that is the case then we are all Ministers not just the man that stands behind the pulpit.

And you think if Paul were here and he heard someone preaching false doctrine he would not call them on it?

It's important to have the right attitude here, not attacking someone for the sake of attacking someone but focus on their message and what's wrong or right with it

It's also important for the messenger to be humble and listen

Trouvere · #**208** 02-02-2011, 09:28 AM

Just a thought.......didn't Jesus come to the Jew's first?
What is this two church theology.....Jewish Church.....Gentile Church?

Socialite · #**209** 02-02-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

Just a thought.......didn't Jesus come to the Jew's first?
What is this two church theology.....Jewish Church.....Gentile Church?

Huh?

Yeah, certain preachers in Stockton definitely believe in a "two church theology." They don't see the Bible as a single story, culminating in Christ and the Church. Instead, their dispensationalist errors see separate covenants and stories.

Sam · #**210** 02-02-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII

...In this portion he teaches the Apostle John did not die but was raptured from the island of Patmos and will be one of the two witnesses during the Tribulation ... listen to 5 minute mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBpym...eature=related

From what I remember of my one year at ABI hearing Bro. Norris, LS didn't get that (John raptured and becoming one of the two witnesses) from Bro. Norris.