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Old 08-13-2019, 09:54 AM
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Communist Amerika?

"Alexander Kitchenko, a Russian national, commented on social media this week, “Looking back at history of Russia I can tell you that Soviet totalitarian communism also started ‘lightly,’ with people who were against ‘patriarchy.’ They were all about free love, abortions, redefinition of language and often were quarreling inside their ranks. But then there was one most militant group, which slowly dominated all the hippie-style freaks and later executed most of them in the name of ‘revolution.’”

“History repeats itself, but now it is happening on your soil and I can only pray that it will be stopped somehow before it is too late,” Mr. Kitchenko commented."

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Old 08-13-2019, 10:32 AM
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I don't see us becoming a communist America, but if Trump loses, we will certainly become a democratic socialist America.

And yes, it is a slippery slope, but, if/when America wakes up, there is always hope we will turn things around, God willing.
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I think it would take the mighty judgment of God striking America first, for us to see a large scale repentance. We are far worse than Sodom.
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America is in its longest fiercest war even as we speak.

In all our wars starting with the American Revolution till now approximately 1,200,000 Americans have been killed by enemies of this country. These men were fighting for AMERICA.

And yet, since the Government declared open war on its own unborn children (commonly known as abortion) in 1973 we as a nation have killed over 60,000,000 Americans!

We have put to death 50 times more Americans than all our wars with other nations combined. combined

Totally shocking!

Adolf Hitler and Mao Tsu Tung and other ruthless tyrants would be very happy to hear these statistics!

Is not our land full of blood? Would we not be horrified if a foreign enemy had done this to us?

But WE..........have done it ourselves.

I fear there is a yet more sinister form of communism taking over America than what we have seen so far.

If the government that NOW IS would support the killing of millions of its citizens what is going to happen when the Democoms actually get full control?

House, Senate, President?

They are already laying the foundation for the destruction of ALL Americans who will not submit to them.

The America of 2019 is NOT the America I was born into in 1953.

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I don't see us becoming a communist America, but if Trump loses, we will certainly become a democratic socialist America.

And yes, it is a slippery slope, but, if/when America wakes up, there is always hope we will turn things around, God willing.
We already are a communist America. The daily news in Moscow never ran headlines like "Glorious Police State Crushes Freedom-terrorists Once Again"....
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We already are a communist America. The daily news in Moscow never ran headlines like "Glorious Police State Crushes Freedom-terrorists Once Again"....

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Re: Communist Amerika?

Yes, by definition we have not been capitalists for some time.

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Capitalism

In common usage, the word..capitalism..means an..economic system..in which all or most of the..means of production..are..privately owned..and..operated, and the..investment..of..capital..and the..production,..distribution..and..prices of..commodities..(goods..and..services) are determined mainly in a..free market, rather than by the..state. In capitalism, the means of production are generally operated for..profit.

In a purely capitalist economy, there would be no public schools, no state owned or maintained roads and highways, public works, welfare, unemployment insurance, workers compensation, Social Security benefits etc.

Socialism

Most generally, socialism refers to state ownership of common property, or state ownership of the means of production... A purely socialist state would be one in which the state owns and operates the means of production. However, nearly all modern capitalist countries combine socialism and capitalism.
The University of Idaho, and any other public school or university, is a “socialist” institutions, and those who attend it or work for it are partaking in socialism, because it is owned and operated by the state of Idaho... The same is true of federal and state highways, federal and state parks, harbors etc.

Communism

Most generally, communism refers to community ownership of property, with the end goal being complete social equality via economic equality... Communism is generally seen by communist countries as an idealized utopian economic and social state that the country as a whole is working toward;.. that is to say that pure communism is the ideal that the People’s Republic of China is (was?) working toward... Such an ideal often justifies means (such as authoritarianism or totalitariansim) that are not themselves communist ideals.

Fundamentally, communism argues that all labor belongs to the individual laborer; no man can own another man's body, and therefore each man owns his own labor... In this model all "profit" actually belongs in part to the laborer, not, or not just, those who control the means of production, such as the business or factory owner... Profit that is not shared with the laborer, therefore, is considered inherently exploitive.

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Democratic Socialism is a matter of degrees. For example, I think there is a difference between (France, Germany, and Italy) vs (Venezuela and Russia).

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Democratic socialism is a term used to refer to the socialist political philosophy that advocates political democracy alongside a socially owned economy, with an emphasis on workers' self-management and democratic control of economic institutions within a market or some form of a decentralised planned socialist economy. Democratic socialists argue that capitalism is inherently incompatible with the values of freedom, equality and solidarity and that these ideals can be achieved only through the realisation of a socialist society. Democratic socialism can support either revolutionary or reformist politics as a means to establish socialism.
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So, I don't see us becoming like Venezuela but I do see us becoming more like Germany if democratic socialists such as Sanders or Warren are elected.

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