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View Poll Results: What are your freelings the son's pre-existence?
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I think the son existed only in the plan of God before the incarnation.
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I don't thing the son existed at all before the incarnation.
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I think that the son existed in some manner with the Father before the incarnation.
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None of these explain my feelings. I will comment below.
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11-08-2011, 04:47 PM
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Re: The Pre-Existence Of The Son
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I think the Son pre-existed being human as God Himself
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Amen. I echo this statement.
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11-08-2011, 04:47 PM
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Re: The Pre-Existence Of The Son
Jesus pre existed as THE WORD.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him. Without him was not anything made that has been made. John 1:1-3
To say Jesus existed as God before he was born is correct. But the WORD was also WITH GOD.
Jesus preexisted as BOTH the WORD that was with God and also God himself.
The whole key to the preexisting of Christ is wrapped up in understanding THE WORD.
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11-08-2011, 04:50 PM
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Re: The Pre-Existence Of The Son
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Jesus pre existed as THE WORD.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him. Without him was not anything made that has been made. John 1:1-3
To say Jesus existed as God before he was born is correct. But the WORD was also WITH GOD.
Jesus preexisted as BOTH the WORD that was with God and also God himself.
The whole key to the preexisting of Christ is wrapped up in understanding THE WORD. |
And the WORD was GOD...basically reiterating what Praxeas already posted.
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11-08-2011, 05:00 PM
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Re: The Pre-Existence Of The Son
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
i think the son preexisted as the word who was a manifestation of god. i think that explains how he came down from heaven and had glory with the father.
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Exactly right.
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11-08-2011, 05:01 PM
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Re: The Pre-Existence Of The Son
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Jesus pre existed as THE WORD.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him. Without him was not anything made that has been made. John 1:1-3
To say Jesus existed as God before he was born is correct. But the WORD was also WITH GOD.
Jesus preexisted as BOTH the WORD that was with God and also God himself.
The whole key to the preexisting of Christ is wrapped up in understanding THE WORD. |
I agree.
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11-08-2011, 05:02 PM
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Re: The Pre-Existence Of The Son
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Originally Posted by Dante
And the WORD was GOD...basically reiterating what Praxeas already posted.
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But how was the WORD also WITH GOD?
Is there something we can go to in the Old Testament and discover that was WITH GOD and also WAS GOD similtaneously?
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11-08-2011, 05:03 PM
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Re: The Pre-Existence Of The Son
GALATIANS 4:4 sums it up pretty well.
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11-08-2011, 05:07 PM
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Re: The Pre-Existence Of The Son
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
But how was the WORD also WITH GOD?
Is there something we can go to in the Old Testament and discover that was WITH GOD and also WAS GOD similtaneously?
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Help me understand, first, your position.
Are you suggesting that The Word and God were separate from one another, or possessed intellect apart from the other?
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11-08-2011, 05:43 PM
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Re: The Pre-Existence Of The Son
Wow... we have a plethora of thoughts and we're pretty much evenly dividided on most possibilities... even the one I didn't include.
Does Brother Epley (and other UC's ) still come around?
I'd like to know where he stands.
For those who have stated that the song existed before his humanity as the Father...
What preincarnate purpose did the son serve?
In what capacity did the son operate preincarnate?
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11-08-2011, 05:58 PM
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Re: The Pre-Existence Of The Son
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Wow... we have a plethora of thoughts and we're pretty much evenly dividided on most possibilities... even the one I didn't include.
Does Brother Epley (and other UC's ) still come around?
I'd like to know where he stands.
For those who have stated that the song existed before his humanity as the Father...
What preincarnate purpose did the son serve?
In what capacity did the son operate preincarnate?
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Did someone in fact say that? I would say He existed as God - the Word, but not really as the Father to the Son...
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