07-18-2019, 11:47 AM
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Re: Trinitarian Pentecostalism
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Originally Posted by Holy Roller
I know a lot of Apostolic people get on the kick that Trinitarian Christians don't get the genuine Holy Ghost, but most likely just get tongues or, in worst cases, a counterfeit spirit. I'm sure some of them have a different spirit that isn't the Spirit of God, but I'm sure all of us here have stories, whether first hand or not, about people in churches we've been to or heard tell of that didn't have the real deal.
Some people want to justify their theory by saying that because they aren't in the fullness of the Truth (as we see it) that therefore they cannot possibly have the genuine Spirit of God. I can't entirely agree. Just because someone doesn't have the revelation or abide in the entirety of Biblical Truth, doesn't mean that the individual wasn't filled with the very Holy Ghost that Christ back as a comforter to His people.
When we say things like this, it seems very much like we're denying the very power of the God we serve. He doesn't hold his Spirit back from those that love Him, and yes, I've met Trinitarians that certainly love the Lord. Are they abiding in the fullness of Truth? Of course they aren't. But how many of us are? Just because someone doesn't see everything just as we doesn't mean that weren't blessed by the Lord to have what is real.
I don't get on that bandwagon.
Naturally, we all know that Jesus will eventually pull back His Spirit if we continue to override it. That's a given. He's not going to continuously abide in a vessel that isn't walking in obedience to His guidance. Now, the precise point where He draws back can certainly be debated.
The biggest thing most people want to harp on about tongue-talkers outside of the Apostolic arena is Oneness and Jesus' name baptism. I know of a preacher that pastors as self-titled community church (it was once affiliated with the Church of God, the Cleveland division) that willingly preaches Trinitarianism when he knows Oneness to be right out of fear that a large percentage of his congregation would reject it and therefore leave his church.
That baffles me. He knows better, but doesn't teach it. One of his sons saw Oneness, and denied ordination in the COG because they wanted him to deny Oneness.
I don't know where all this rant came from but I was sitting at work and this is what was jumbling through my head, and I wanted to get it out here.
I'll be done for now.
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