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Old 05-14-2009, 01:27 PM
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Speaking in tongues

I know this is old topic but people tell me that the tongues in acts and the tongues at corithians is diffrent were does this info come from to tell you they are diffrent..
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Old 05-14-2009, 02:12 PM
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I have often wondered this too but never got any good explanation - interesting to see what kind of responses you will get.
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Old 05-18-2009, 12:55 PM
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Re: Speaking in tongues

Can no one explain this???
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Of course, there's plenty of explanation. I am sure you are talking specifically about 1 Corinthians 14? Paul references tongues on many occassions and mentions many purposes and functions of tongues (

The AOG has a great explanation on tongues: http://www.ag.org/top/Beliefs/baptmh...ithoutspeaking

Also good to remember, that the Corinthians didn't need an explanation of tongues as salvific evidence. To the other extreme, they had a major problem with "super-spirituality", everyone claiming to be a prophet, screaming tongues in public worship at the same time without interpretation -- it was a messy scene. And though the Spirit can never be tidy, Paul was bringing order to an extremely dysfunctional church. Corinth thought they were so spiritual, that after they spoke in tongues, they would commit incest, adultery, etc... This is the real meaning of "super spiritual". Paul's writings to Corinth included 4 letters, which we have only 2 of them in the canon.
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Of course, there's plenty of explanation. I am sure you are talking specifically about 1 Corinthians 14? Paul references tongues on many occassions and mentions many purposes and functions of tongues (

The AOG has a great explanation on tongues: http://www.ag.org/top/Beliefs/baptmh...ithoutspeaking

Also good to remember, that the Corinthians didn't need an explanation of tongues as salvific evidence. To the other extreme, they had a major problem with "super-spirituality", everyone claiming to be a prophet, screaming tongues in public worship at the same time without interpretation -- it was a messy scene. And though the Spirit can never be tidy, Paul was bringing order to an extremely dysfunctional church. Corinth thought they were so spiritual, that after they spoke in tongues, they would commit incest, adultery, etc... This is the real meaning of "super spiritual". Paul's writings to Corinth included 4 letters, which we have only 2 of them in the canon.


I don't think I have ever been in a pentecostal church where there was not screaming in tounges without interpretation - my husband is not apostolic/pentecostal and this really turns him off. I have never been able to really explain it well to him.
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Of course, there's plenty of explanation. I am sure you are talking specifically about 1 Corinthians 14? Paul references tongues on many occassions and mentions many purposes and functions of tongues (

The AOG has a great explanation on tongues: http://www.ag.org/top/Beliefs/baptmh...ithoutspeaking

Also good to remember, that the Corinthians didn't need an explanation of tongues as salvific evidence. To the other extreme, they had a major problem with "super-spirituality", everyone claiming to be a prophet, screaming tongues in public worship at the same time without interpretation -- it was a messy scene. And though the Spirit can never be tidy, Paul was bringing order to an extremely dysfunctional church. Corinth thought they were so spiritual, that after they spoke in tongues, they would commit incest, adultery, etc... This is the real meaning of "super spiritual". Paul's writings to Corinth included 4 letters, which we have only 2 of them in the canon.
Where are the other two? Why aren't they canonized? Should we, as Christians, assume they are not important, because they are not canonized?
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I don't think I have ever been in a pentecostal church where there was not screaming in tounges without interpretation - my husband is not apostolic/pentecostal and this really turns him off. I have never been able to really explain it well to him.
Paul might want to write some more letters, if he were around today.
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Paul might want to write some more letters, if he were around today.


OHHHH - I bet he would - LOL
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Re: Speaking in tongues

We have to trust the Church Fathers on this one. There were so many fraudulent letters, they had an intense system of determining which writings would be part of the NT canon. It certainly doesn't mean the other writings aren't important. They reveal much context about the NT times. The same is true with the Apocryphal books.

By screaming in tongues, are you referring to situations where there is chaos and confusion? Or is someone praying loudly, including with tongues, at an appropriate time? I've been there were in was quiet in the church, a peaceful Spirit was set in and the attention-seekers began to wail in tongues as loudly as they could. The pastor got up and instructed them to stop! This would be clearly out of order. There should not be a cessation of tongues in public worship, but it must be done "decently and in order."
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We have to trust the Church Fathers on this one. There were so many fraudulent letters, they had an intense system of determining which writings would be part of the NT canon. It certainly doesn't mean the other writings aren't important. They reveal much context about the NT times. The same is true with the Apocryphal books.

By screaming in tongues, are you referring to situations where there is chaos and confusion? Or is someone praying loudly, including with tongues, at an appropriate time? I've been there were in was quiet in the church, a peaceful Spirit was set in and the attention-seekers began to wail in tongues as loudly as they could. The pastor got up and instructed them to stop! This would be clearly out of order. There should not be a cessation of tongues in public worship, but it must be done "decently and in order."

I am talking about any time someone prays out loud over everyone in tongues - to me that is very distracting and that is what my husband points out is not biblical and according to Paul it seems he is correct and also another thing when someone is praying for you and screaming at you speaking in tongues - to me that is very distracting and just doesn't seem biblical.
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