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05-18-2018, 02:02 PM
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Re: What If My Works Are Not Perfect?
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Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness
what do you believe about predestination. who was predestined?
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The topic here is Christians overcoming sin. Feel free to start another thread.
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05-18-2018, 02:16 PM
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Re: What If My Works Are Not Perfect?
Are you perfect Michael?
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05-18-2018, 02:51 PM
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Re: What If My Works Are Not Perfect?
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The topic here is Christians overcoming sin. Feel free to start another thread.
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You already answered a question about you believing predestination. and you tell me feel free to start another thread when i ask about it. I think I would call that being double minded and I think being double minded is a sin also if you could talk about it and tell me I cant. I think that is considered hypocrisy and i think thats sin too. also not sure if you attend church and I believe if you dont then your forsaking the assembling of yourselves together. and i believe that also is a sin. so did you sin 1, 2, or 3 times today?
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05-18-2018, 02:57 PM
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Re: What If My Works Are Not Perfect?
Never fails. Disagree with somebody's presentation of doctrine? Make it about the poster instead of the Scripture.
RDP is right.
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05-18-2018, 03:16 PM
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Re: What If My Works Are Not Perfect?
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Are you perfect Michael?
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If I said yes you would say I was a liar. If I say no you will say I am a hypocrite.
Anytime, anyone has no sin in their life they are sinless and perfect before God. Anytime one does have sin in their life they can expect his scourging anytime.
I might ask the question "Do you have sin in your life"? I have asked this of no one. I assume you do not.
But I will ask this. Is it normal for a Christian to have sin in their life? If they have no sin in their life why are they not perfect?
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05-18-2018, 03:38 PM
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Re: What If My Works Are Not Perfect?
Are we instructed by Paul to be perfect?
2 Cor 13:11
11Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.
Another consequence to not being perfect. The God of love and peace will not be with us.
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05-18-2018, 03:43 PM
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Re: What If My Works Are Not Perfect?
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Aquila, what you are missing is that sinless perfection is the standard by which we ALL ARE GOING TO BE JUDGED!
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Well, I'll tell you right now, if that's the case, I'm not going to make it. Because this ol' boy ain't perfect. lol
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05-18-2018, 03:51 PM
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Re: What If My Works Are Not Perfect?
Michael, you're not perfect.
Romans 1:28-31 King James Version (KJV)
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 2 Corinthians 12:20
For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults: If you were sinlessly perfect, Michael, you'd not be debating with us. You'd also not stir up debate, strife, or division. You'd find an Apostolic forum of soul sleepers to "fellowship" with.
If you want to "debate" this point... feel free... but... you'll only prove how imperfect you are if you do.
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05-18-2018, 03:52 PM
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Re: What If My Works Are Not Perfect?
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If I said yes you would say I was a liar. If I say no you will say I am a hypocrite.
Anytime, anyone has no sin in their life they are sinless and perfect before God. Anytime one does have sin in their life they can expect his scourging anytime.
I might ask the question "Do you have sin in your life"? I have asked this of no one. I assume you do not.
But I will ask this. Is it normal for a Christian to have sin in their life? If they have no sin in their life why are they not perfect?
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Michael, if you had attained sinless perfection, you'd have no problem professing that reality. In fact, you'd testify of it for the sake of the souls of others... if you really were sinlessly perfect, that is.
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05-18-2018, 03:52 PM
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Re: What If My Works Are Not Perfect?
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
I believe in predestination but not eternal security.
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That doesn’t even make sense.
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