Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by Rico

Saddam Hussein proved he had weapons of mass destruction when he gassed thousands of his own people. Anyone who would be willing to use those types of weapons on his own people would not hesitate to use them on others. He admitted before his death that he tried to make it look to the rest of the world that he was up to no good in developing other ways of using WMDs, even though he wasn't. Hussein played a game with the rest of the world and his cost him his life.

The sad reality was that the US sold Saddam the very gas he used on his own people.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Bro...most nations in the world have the ability to gas a significant number of people...that's no reason to lie to justify an invasion. Hey...we've got that ability many times over...what if Russia felt a preemptive attack on the US to protect her interests were justified? We can't go around invading every country that has gas or uses it...we'd have war without end and it would be the death of us. But here's the deal...a Middle Eastern nation with nukes...now that justifies military action to protect Israel and our economic interests in the region, like oil. That's why Bush led us to believe they already had nukes or were on the verge of having them in a couple months.

Strong sanctions were already causing Saddam's regime to teeter on the verge of collapse. The IAEA, the UN, and the CIA warned that they believed Saddam was bluffing in his rhetoric... seeing that his regime was a sinking ship. If you can remember that's why they were demanding more inspections to verify the charges Bush was making. It all wasn't adding up. The Administration made the case that more inspections weren't needed because Saddam wasn't complying anyway and pushed for the war. Hate to say it...but if the inspectors got in again...they may have proven the Administration's accusations regarding nuclear capability and projects to be exaggerated.

Here's what gets my goat...if McClellan is right...the IAEA and the United Nations was telling us more truth about Iraq than the Bush Administration.

Brother, as I said in another post, if this McClellan fella had any real proof of his allegations, and actually cared about the supposed injustices he's attempting to correct, then why didn't he take his proof to the members of Congress for them to investigate? The democrats would love nothing more than to have a justifiable reason to hand Bush his own head on a silver platter.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

The sad reality was that the US sold Saddam the very gas he used on his own people.

We certainly had our hand in creating the dragon we later had to come back and slay.

Originally Posted by Rico

Brother, as I said in another post, if this McClellan fella had any real proof of his allegations, and actually cared about the supposed injustices he's attempting to correct, then why didn't he take his proof to the members of Congress for them to investigate? The democrats would love nothing more than to have a justifiable reason to hand Bush his own head on a silver platter.

Well...first the Rove/Libby thing is already in the legal process. Everything about Katrina is history, maybe disheartening, but nothing criminal. First they'd have to be willing to hear him, he's only a formal press secretary. His story regarding the Iraq War would bring cabnet officials, defense committees, the Pentagon and a number of high level government officials under deep scrutiny, then factor in all the high level top secret stuff that they would use to prevent discussion on the issue. It's better to write a book, get the story out, allow open discussion on it, and if Congress wishes to act or hear him formally they can act.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Well...first the Rove/Libby thing is already in the legal process. Everything about Katrina is history, maybe disheartening, but nothing criminal. First they'd have to be willing to hear him, he's only a formal press secretary. His story regarding the Iraq War would bring cabnet officials, defense committees, the Pentagon and a number of high level government officials under deep scrutiny, then factor in all the high level top secret stuff that they would use to prevent discussion on the issue. It's better to write a book, get the story out, allow open discussion on it, and if Congress wishes to act or hear him formally they can act.

Just imagine the props a democratic congressman or senator would get for being the one to initiate such an investigation. They've been looking for a reason to give the Bush administration the old one-two since he got elected. Plus, they've suffered embarassment after embarassment since they took over the House with the promise of doing something to stop the Bush administration. All it would take is for one of them to be willing to listen to this McClellan fella. Sorry, but I just don't believe he has any proof to back his claims.

Originally Posted by Rico

Just imagine the props a democratic congressman or senator would get for being the one to initiate such an investigation. They've been looking for a reason to give the Bush administration the old one-two since he got elected. Plus, they've suffered embarassment after embarassment since they took over the House with the promise of doing something to stop the Bush administration. All it would take is for one of them to be willing to listen to this McClellan fella. Sorry, but I just don't believe he has any proof to back his claims.

Only time will tell.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Only time will tell.

In the meantime who knows how much money this guy is making off this book. Sure sounds to me like he's trying to the right thing. NOT!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Duh.

Duh is right....ALL presidencies do this. But that does not mean the opposite of what they said is the truth. Katrina fault does not lie with Bush as much as it does with Nagin and the governer

Originally Posted by Rico

Just imagine the props a democratic congressman or senator would get for being the one to initiate such an investigation. They've been looking for a reason to give the Bush administration the old one-two since he got elected. Plus, they've suffered embarassment after embarassment since they took over the House with the promise of doing something to stop the Bush administration. All it would take is for one of them to be willing to listen to this McClellan fella. Sorry, but I just don't believe he has any proof to back his claims.

Only time will tell.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Only time will tell.

I am sure Ms. Pelosi would jump at the chance, seeing as how her rallying cry has been to stop this war. Her and her buddies tried cuttin off the purse strings and Bush put a whammy on that notion faster than it takes a frog to eat a fly. Yeah, the democrats want to give Bush some serious payback. McClellan has some proof and couldn't find any of them to run with it? Yeah, right! He did this for the money, plain and simple. Besides, anyone with half a brain knows a book written by the whistleblower who let Congress in on all the shenanigans going on at the White House, with the President heading up a conspiracy to lie to the American people about the reasons for going to war would sell a whole lot more copies than one written by some disgruntled knucklhead with an axe to grind who makes accusations without having any real proof. (try repeating that sentence 10 times rapidly )