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12-26-2008, 11:37 AM
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>>Primitive Pentecostal<<
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21st Century Plague: Domineering, Bossy Women
We see THEM in every commercial, sitcom, movie, book, magazine, board room, office, store and restaurant. THEY are active in every church, attempting - with much success- to control the choir, the music, the praise band, the Sunday School, the youth group, the finances, the pastor and the overall direction of the church.
Who are THEY?
They are domineering women. They are here, and in your face.
The twenty-first century woman is no longer satisfied with gender equality. No, the twenty-first century woman wants to exert her will through a variety of means which include - but is not limited to - manipulation, intimidation, threats and litigation. She wants to be in control. Above men.
This is a perversion of God's plan for humanity. Men and women are to roll through life on parallel tracks carefully constructed by God IN THE BEGINNING. Any deviation from these roles leads to familial and societal train wrecks.
Here is what the Bible has to say about domineering women.
"A woman must be a learner, listening quietly and with due submission. I do not permit a woman to be a teacher, nor must woman domineer over man; she should be quiet". ( 1 Timothy 2:11,12 New English Bible).
Woman in quietness let her be learning in all subjection; to be teaching but to woman not I am permitting, nor to be playing master of male person, but to be in quietness." ( 1 Timothy 2:11,12. Greek text translated by Westcott and Hort).
It is clear that God does not approve of domieering women. It is also clear that God expects women to be complements to men, in spite of perceived masculine weaknesses.
When wives fulfil their God-given allotted place they are happy, and have an enjoyable, interesting, and peaceful relationship with God and their husbands.
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12-26-2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: 21st Century Plague: Domineering, Bossy Women
It all started with allowing them to vote. lol
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12-26-2008, 11:45 AM
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Re: 21st Century Plague: Domineering, Bossy Women
EA.......
You like to live dangerously, eh? Haha!
Nobody likes loud, domineering, bossy women except maybe some perhaps who like the drama that accompanies that kind of woman.
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12-26-2008, 11:54 AM
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Re: 21st Century Plague: Domineering, Bossy Women
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EA.......
You like to live dangerously, eh? Haha!
Nobody likes loud, domineering, bossy women except maybe some perhaps who like the drama that accompanies that kind of woman.
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Danger is my middle name!
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12-26-2008, 11:50 AM
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Re: 21st Century Plague: Domineering, Bossy Women
Have you ever met this woman?
You know, the one who constantly humiliates her kind, good-natured husband in public settings? She belittles him for his work, his family, their home, his intellect and .....
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12-26-2008, 12:07 PM
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Re: 21st Century Plague: Domineering, Bossy Women
You're inviting a backlash of 1/2 of the body of Christ against the male Christian who treats his wife like chattle.
Do you think the verse from 1Tim applies to women in the church apart from the marriage partnership?
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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12-26-2008, 12:47 PM
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Re: 21st Century Plague: Domineering, Bossy Women
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
You're inviting a backlash of 1/2 of the body of Christ against the male Christian who treats his wife like chattle.
Do you think the verse from 1Tim applies to women in the church apart from the marriage partnership?
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I'm not inviting anything. I'm not adding any disclaimers.
It is what it is and says what it says.
Do you disagree with Paul?
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12-26-2008, 01:36 PM
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Re: 21st Century Plague: Domineering, Bossy Women
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
I'm not inviting anything. I'm not adding any disclaimers.
It is what it is and says what it says.
Do you disagree with Paul?
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I'm not saying I disagree with Paul but I might be disagreeing with you! Here's why: it has to do with verse 15 and the implication that this passage has more to do with a godly husband and wife relationship than a submissive role a woman must take within the body of Christ.
9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
Your interpretaion seems contradictory with Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. ....and with 1 Cor 12. I don't see any distinctions being made by Paul in the body of Christ or in the gifting of the members of the body whether they be male of female.
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withall
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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12-26-2008, 02:11 PM
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Re: 21st Century Plague: Domineering, Bossy Women
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
I'm not saying I disagree with Paul but I might be disagreeing with you! Here's why: it has to do with verse 15 and the implication that this passage has more to do with a godly husband and wife relationship than a submissive role a woman must take within the body of Christ.
9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
Your interpretaion seems contradictory with Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. ....and with 1 Cor 12. I don't see any distinctions being made by Paul in the body of Christ or in the gifting of the members of the body whether they be male of female.
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withall
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
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Mizpeh, I am amazed that someone as read as you are could misinterpret scripture this horribly. Of course there is to be a distinction between the sexes, and God definitely expects us to fill our role.
Your interpretation of Galatians 3:28 lacks sound hermeneutic application.
We ARE one body as a church. But each individual member is distinct. We are not nameless, faceless, genderless drones.
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12-26-2008, 02:37 PM
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Re: 21st Century Plague: Domineering, Bossy Women
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
Mizpeh, I am amazed that someone as read as you are could misinterpret scripture this horribly. Of course there is to be a distinction between the sexes, and God definitely expects us to fill our role.
Your interpretation of Galatians 3:28 lacks sound hermeneutic application.
We ARE one body as a church. But each individual member is distinct. We are not nameless, faceless, genderless drones.
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We are many members of one body. We each are gifted of God. I don't see where Paul distinguishes male and female members of the body of Christ in the gifts. He doesn't even insinuate in 1 Cor 12-14 that only male members are gifted in the ministry five fold ministry which is what you are saying, Women are not allowed to teach.
On a practical level, do you allow women in your church to teach Sunday school or any type of classes to male members of the church?
I'd like to hear your interpretation of Gal 3:28.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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