Should we teach others to rebel against standards?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Originally Posted by Aquila View Post
"Yes, but neither he, nor I, said that he was presently a pastor."

This is what you did say Aquila: "This man claims to have served the Lord for over 30 years, a pastor, a bishop as an elder etc.! What??? And he speaks like this about a politician's carnal, and perhaps even criminal, antics??? This man's justification of bad behavior has lowered his moral compass. Why? Because he has blended his faith with a political agenda, and that means supporting a man of bad behavior as part of his religio-political loyalties."

Then a little farther down on the glorious church post number 31 btw Aquila you said: "They gentleman is UPCI. Politics is the art of compromise. And blending politics with his faith has left him... morally compromised."

I have to stand by my comment. I never said the man is currently a pastor. Read my comments again.

[Aquila]

[QUOTE=1ofthechosen;1528176]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

There is a difference. Above Aquila said that he didn’t say that he was presently a pastor. Below he says this man claims to have been a pastor. One is present tense the other is past tense. I don’t have a dog in the fight, but don’t twist his words. That’s unacceptable.

[/QUOTE=1ofthechosen;1528169]This is what you did say Aquila: "This man claims to have served the Lord for over 30 years, a pastor, a bishop as an elder etc.!

It's more about the other quote. The one you didn't quote btw. This part said something different to me and everyone else that saw it. "They gentleman is UPCI. Politics is the art of compromise. And blending politics with his faith has left him... morally compromised."

But I do see that now but at the time that statement was saying something else to me. Because somehow he was being faulted for being a Apostolic preacher and saying that. If they use to be a Apostolic preacher then what does it even matter? Because more than likely the dude is a reprobate. It was made out to be something it wasn't.

You guys are so determined to defend this man's statement, you'll stop at nothing to shoot the messenger.

It was only an example of an individual allowing politics to lower their standards as the defend a politician's bad behavior.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

You guys are so determined to defend this man's statement, you'll stop at nothing to shoot the messenger.

So, now he is not a pastor? Then you just allowed us to believe he was?

Originally Posted by Aquila

It was only an example of an individual allowing politics to lower their standards as the defend a politician's bad behavior.

You mean like you do?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Aquila, your forum cred is dead.

I'm not here for forum cred. I'm just chatting, sharing my mind, and telling it as I see it.

Readers aren't stupid. They can see when my statements are misrepresented. And though no one call you on it, if anyone's cred is damaged, it won't be mine.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Holmes, stick to arguing about percentages or how much one should give or not give. Because defending Chris, can only be achieved by him and him alone. You will find that making any attempt to plead Chris' case is a tar baby.

He paid closer attention to my words, and validated what I've been telling you.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Chris can look out for himself. However, right is right and wrong is wrong. Saying he said something he didn’t, is wrong. We have enough issues with misunderstandings without doing that.

Speaking of which, I’m pretty sure you don’t have me on record of telling ANYBODY how much they should give, or not give. I don’t do that. It goes against my core beliefs.

Their misrepresentation of my statements is deliberate. They're more concerned over their political hero being criticized, and the reputation of organizations, than they are there truth. Which brings us back the poison of political hero worship in the church.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I'm not here for forum cred.

So, now you are telling us that you don't care about your credibility? You are just here to tare wings of the ecclesiastical flies?

Originally Posted by Aquila

I'm just chatting, sharing my mind, and telling it as I see it.

Chris, therefore we are not to take you seriously anymore because your posting isn't honest.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Readers aren't stupid.

No, they aren't and so far they see you as not being honest in your posting.

Originally Posted by Aquila

They can see when my statements are misrepresented.

They? Who are the THEY?

Originally Posted by Aquila

And though no one call you on it, if anyone's cred is damaged, it won't be mine.

Then by all means bring forth your defenders, show all the posters who believe what you are posting is correct? Chris, your stories devolve at a rapid rate. Now the guy isn't even a pastor, and you are now admitting that? Bring them on, bring on all the posters who want to side with you.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

So, now he is not a pastor? Then you just allowed us to believe he was?

You mean like you do?

I'm not a pastor, elder, or deacon. Nor am I speaking from a pulpit.

I'm a private citizen on an internet forum.

Do you guys ever cease to misrepresent what's being told to you?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

He paid closer attention to my words, and validated what I've been telling you.

Where?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I'm not a pastor, elder, or deacon. Nor am I speaking from a pulpit.

I'm a private citizen on an internet forum.

Do you guys ever cease to misrepresent what's being told to you?

Chris, nor have you been presented to us as a pastor, bishop or a deacon. Do you understand what is happening?