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Old 03-25-2020, 10:30 AM
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When God pours out wrath, does He kill His children, along with those He is targeting?
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It depends. Are they dwelling in the secret place? For that matter he at times kills his children to chasten them. Jesus said he would kill Jezebel and her children if there was no repentance.
WOW! Your God kllls his children if they are not in some secret place of the most high? Where might that be, and how would one know if they are in that secret place? Are you there? If you say Yes, how do you know, and if you don't know, why not, and how can you know?

Seems like you have, what's called a weasel clause, so when a child of God dies on what you see as God's wrath, you will assume they were not where they needed to be? Am I right, or at lease close?
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WOW! Your God kllls his children if they are not in some secret place of the most high? Where might that be, and how would one know if they are in that secret place? Are you there? If you say Yes, how do you know, and if you don't know, why not, and how can you know?

Seems like you have, what's called a weasel clause, so when a child of God dies on what you see as God's wrath, you will assume they were not where they needed to be? Am I right, or at lease close?
My God? Well yes Jesus is MY GOD!

20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Please find out who is this God!

What is this secret place?

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1He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

2I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

3Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

4He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

7A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

8Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

9Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;

10There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

11For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

12They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

13Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

14Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.

15He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

16With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
Is one dwelling under his shadow? Abiding in Jesus? Joined to him by faith? Keeping his commandments?

Yes I am saying if GOD SENDS...HIS.....WRATH those who are where they should be with him will be protected.

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3And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; 4And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. 5And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: 6Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house. 7And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city. 8And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?
So if something is wrath sent by God to punish those he is angry with it will not fall on those he is NOT angry with.
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Old 03-25-2020, 04:51 PM
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My God? Well yes Jesus is MY GOD!

20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Please find out who is this God!

What is this secret place?



Is one dwelling under his shadow? Abiding in Jesus? Joined to him by faith? Keeping his commandments?

Yes I am saying if GOD SENDS...HIS.....WRATH those who are where they should be with him will be protected.



So if something is wrath sent by God to punish those he is angry with it will not fall on those he is NOT angry with.
Mike, Paul was supposedly beheaded by Nero. James the less was excecuted. Mike death isnít something we dread, we embrace it. Hence the reason Romans converted while watching Christians die in the arena. You havenít clue about the church in tribulation. When you talk about the logos space suit god you sound like a Trinitarian. When you talk about post trib you sound like a pre tribber. Thank Jesus you arenít a minister.
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Old 03-25-2020, 05:54 PM
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Mike, Paul was supposedly beheaded by Nero. James the less was excecuted. Mike death isnít something we dread, we embrace it. Hence the reason Romans converted while watching Christians die in the arena. You havenít clue about the church in tribulation. When you talk about the logos space suit god you sound like a Trinitarian. When you talk about post trib you sound like a pre tribber. Thank Jesus you arenít a minister.
None of what you describe was the wrath of God. It was the wrath of satan.

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I never said that at any time. I said we are at the BEGINNING of the end. Not in the great tribulation.
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Some of us have preached Gods judgment is coming for years.
It is here.
Michael the Disciple has a God made in his image. Mike you said that we are at the beginning of the End? Mike, you said GOD'S JUDGEMENT IS HERE

Mike, you once posted that you pastored, did you run them off with your inconsistencies. You posted that we are in God's judgement NOW. It is here, which is interpreted to mean right now. You false teacher, you weaver of fables, you dancer of jigs, you baloney of thrower. You are part of the problem not the solution. Keep scaring housewives from Florida, and baptizing them in your bathtub. Oh, and save your Christianese cursing for yourself.
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None of what you describe was the wrath of God. It was the wrath of satan.

Blessings Dom.
You believe that Satan is independent of God's jurisdiction.
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Michael the Disciple has a God made in his image. Mike you said that we are at the beginning of the End? Mike, you said GOD'S JUDGEMENT IS HERE

Mike, you once posted that you pastored, did you run them off with your inconsistencies. You posted that we are in God's judgement NOW. It is here, which is interpreted to mean right now. You false teacher, you weaver of fables, you dancer of jigs, you baloney of thrower. You are part of the problem not the solution. Keep scaring housewives from Florida, and baptizing them in your bathtub. Oh, and save your Christianese cursing for yourself.
Gods judgment is here. Much much more is coming. I never heard of "Christianese cursing" until you mentioned it.
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It may be but as pointed out God uses men and or events to bring calamity. I do believe the deep state Commies are using it to bring martial law, stripping away freedoms and banishing the constitution.
Oh mephibosheth!

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AMERICA'S DREAM HAS TURNED INTO A NIGHTMARE, and she has woke up crying! Please clergy, don't give the nation a glass of warm milk and rock it back to sleep with soft words and mistaken compassion. Too long churches have drifted from the way of the Lord and enjoyed the "pleasures of sin for a season". America, once "a city set upon a hill", a beacon, a home of true revival, has become a sin-palace. Glib religious speech-masters in the pulpits have allowed back-slidden America to funnel every vice known to mankind throughout the world; same-sex marriage, greed, corruption, pornography, infanticide, drugs, and sexual debauchery. And we wonder why America and the world is now reaping the worldwind?

From deep in my memory the words come roaring forth from real men of God from my past, saying; "Where are the Elijah's of God?" Read II Chronicles 21:14, the prophet Elijah, burdened and grieved because the people of God had gone "a whoring" after the way of sinful nations, he said; "Behold, with a great 'plague' will the Lord smite thy people, and thy children, and thy wives, and all thy goods". God is consistent, He always deals with back-slidden nations the same. This present plague is striking all age groups, men, women, young and old, as never before in our history. Our economy is standing still, people confined to their homes, unable to work, thus our "goods" have been stricken as well.

Does anyone really think that Satan has pulled a slick one, and that this thing just snuck up and surprised the world, and now God is just going to comfort us, and "tuck us in" so we can go back to "playing church"? God is acting, not reacting! Nothing happens without His will and purpose! Lord help us, if we do not see the Hand of God in this! I am only surprised that it has taken this long to occur.

Too many Apostolics are reading from the "Book of Actors" instead of the "Book of Acts". We act like preachers, we act like worshippers, and we act like pray-ers. God said, "but your hearts are far from me." What happens if the "lighthouse" goes dark in the storm? This is no time for ministry to be docile in a "thumb-sucking" Laodicean church-age; it is time to challenge the laity, and let the true Church emerge!

Repentance is not a dirty word! It is unpopular, but, it is essential. II Chronicles 7:14, God tells His people to turn from their wicked ways. Even though He calls them 'His people', He tells them to turn from their wicked ways. If 'His people' are not walking in the ways of the world then what is their wickedness? "Luke-warmness" (He will vomit them out of His mouth) "at ease in Zion," (indifference in the church) "discord and division," God calls it an abomination! (See Proverbs 6:16-19) Church repent! Preachers, while people's hearts are tender now and while they are listening, preach repentance!

"Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and show my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins" (Isaiah 58:1).

Sinners are paying attention now, their interest is peaked. Preachers, preach! The Kingdom of God is at hand, these are the "beginning of sorrows" that Jesus warned of. This is a dress rehearsal for the "Great Tribulation" that Jesus foretold.

If people are so troubled that they can't get toilet paper now, how will it be when they can't buy or sell without the mark? Preachers, preach! Make it plain. Tell the people that they must be "born again"! Tell them how to be born again, and that starts with "Repentance"! See Acts 2:38. Preach! That is what preachers are called to do. Preach! We were not called to be "religious salesmen, and/or theological lecturers", we are called to preach.

"But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand" ( Ezekiel 33:6).

There is a high price to pay for preachers who fail to warn the people when the plague comes!
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