The Great Tribulation: Battleground Earth

[Michael The Disciple]

What disturbs me is when people just ASSUME the whole thing is a "future end time scenario" but never establish that is, in fact, the case. They don't point out the six seals and identify WHEN THESE THINGS WERE/ARE SUPPOSED TO BEGIN.

It would be interesting to see what you believe. Explain what it REALLY meant. How it looked when it was fulfilled?

Bottomless pit? Creatures? Angel of the pit? The five months of torment?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It would be interesting to see what you believe. Explain what it REALLY meant. How it looked when it was fulfilled?

Bottomless pit? Creatures? Angel of the pit? The five months of torment?

Why would it be interesting? You teach what you believe on YOUTUBES!
How could anyone add to that?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Mike do you have a video where you teach on the third temple?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Why would it be interesting? You teach what you believe on YOUTUBES!
How could anyone add to that?

Why did you watch my video with your brothers and put it on here?

Maybe I want to hear what you all believe for the same reason?

And feel free to post my videos Dom.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Why did you watch my video with your brothers and put it on here?

Maybe I want to hear what you all believe for the same reason?

And feel free to post my videos Dom.

One brother was reading the forum one night and came across the discussion we were having (really I was having) concerning your usage of the Hebrew verb YAH. Unbeknownst to me he was also following you running from my questions concerning a third temple being built. He then noticed your videos you posted on the forum which were from your account on YouTubes. He then started watching all of them with his wife. Recently he pulled out the one I posted, and we all watched it. His take away from the huge time he spent in hours watching your stuff. Is that you have some good information on basic cornbread and butter beans Apostolic doctrine. He noticed that you are Yeshuer. But your eschatology videos were (in his words) knee slappers.

Also he holds the opinion you were as closed as a clam to seeing anything outside of your box. I have another video I want to post.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Mike do you have a video where you teach on the third temple?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It would be interesting to see what you believe. Explain what it REALLY meant. How it looked when it was fulfilled?

Bottomless pit? Creatures? Angel of the pit? The five months of torment?

Translation: I'm not going to lay it out, line upon line, book chapter and verse, why the Revelation strictly concerns a future end time scenario.

[diakonos]

This has been fun.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Translation: I'm not going to lay it out, line upon line, book chapter and verse, why the Revelation strictly concerns a future end time scenario.

In other words they are ashamed to attempt to try to force any kind of historical 5 month event into the 5th trumpet. All they can do is attack.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Translation: I'm not going to lay it out, line upon line, book chapter and verse, why the Revelation strictly concerns a future end time scenario.

Well, that is MTD. He makes his statements but is very limited on the Q&A.
If you dig through our eschatology section Elder LeDeay and Mike Wiltcher were the champions concerning Dispensationalist Pre Tribulation Rapture. But Michael the Disciple is barely a blip on the radar. You would think for how much smack he talks about Pre Tribbers (forget even Preterists, Mike has been chewing on Pre Tribbers way longer) you would think he had literal tomes in the eschatology section. But alas he is lacking. One of the brothers here in FLA pointed out that Mike makes a lot of “I don’t know” statements. So, if a guy doesn’t know, then you would think he would cut others a lot of slack. My lands he reads VoM magazine. Those guys don’t believe fat meat is greasy. So there is a lot of confliction in Mike's ideology. If he wants others to do a dog and pony show, then he needs to answer some hard questions.