Violent Islam

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by odooley6985

Comparison was not lame. Does the minority that is clearly against what the majority believes, mean that the whole religion is violent? Thats what I am trying to get at. They arent practicing real Islam is my point. Get it? Its hard for you to understand cause you already have your mind made up. Hey Christianity is the most child molesting religion based on your line of thinking.

My line of thinking? I didn't state that the actions of a few reflect upon the whole group. However, I am agreeing with others that comparing Christian extremists to radical Islam is a failure. At least, not when you consider the end result of their philosophies and actions. Having bad or even violent ideas doesn't make a person violent or a terrorist--although those ideas can eventually shape into something of that sort. It is actions that make one violent or not.

So, with that said, how is Islam NOT the most violent religion in the world--counting only the radical elements? What religion is more violent?

[odooley6985]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

My line of thinking? I didn't state that the actions of a few reflect upon the whole group. However, I am agreeing with others that comparing Christian extremists to radical Islam is a failure. At least, not when you consider the end result of their philosophies and actions. Having bad or even violent ideas doesn't make a person violent or a terrorist--although those ideas can eventually shape into something of that sort. It is actions that make one violent or not.

So, with that said, how is Islam NOT the most violent religion in the world--counting only the radical elements? What religion is more violent?

Its not because it doesnt condone or preach it. They have more violent radicals than any other religion. But like I said those people arent practicing Islam when they do that. I feel like a hamster running in circles on a wheel.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

I ask again and again and again. If Islam isn't the most violent RELIGION on the face of the earth TODAY....what RELIGION is more violent than Islam? We're talking RELIGIOUS violence, violence within that RELIGION.

No other RELIGION on the face of the earth compares to Islam when it comes to RELIGIOUS violence TODAY.

Your obsession with trying to prove your point is politely noted. However, in Islamic countries there is no need to lock ones door, no need to accumulate guns and ammunition for self-defense, no need for "stand your ground" laws, no need for continually watching your children to prevent them from being snatched for sexual gratification.

Though your view of Islam as a "violent religion" based on your obsession with the displays of "religious" violence that are put in front of you (to distract you from the fact that you live in a country that has 3rd world levels of performance in terms of safety and violence) may seem justified to you it does not compute with the fact that a typical Muslim neighborhood in a typical Muslim country is a stable community of intact families on the level of which Americans and others only speak of but have never managed to achieve.

In country after country the numbers speak for themselves. I wonder then what is the basis for your obsession when held up against WHO and other statistics? What next? A big "compensator" model pickup truck?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by odooley6985

Its not because it doesnt condone or preach it. They have more violent radicals than any other religion. But like I said those people arent practicing Islam when they do that. I feel like a hamster running in circles on a wheel.

Then by your logic, there are no violent Christians either. By definition, when they commit violence in the name of God, they cease to be truly Christians. Around and around and around....

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by odooley6985

Estimates are that 5-20% of all muslims are radical outta 1-2 billion

Did you read through the stats I posted? Its highef. Dont confuse extremists that act violently with those who merely support them verbally witn hate rhetoric

[odooley6985]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Then by your logic, there are no violent Christians either. By definition, when they commit violence in the name of God, they cease to be truly Christians. Around and around and around....

Yes!!!!!

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Oh and I bet the "safety Crime index" doesn't really count to what happens to Christians by Muslims in countries like Egypt.

Most Muslim countries have been the victim of either christian colonialization or outright christian invasion. Unfortunately, this past behavior has earned as much intolerance for the christian faith as I fear behavior by Islamic extremists will earn for Islam

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by odooley6985

Yes!!!!!

So, really, there are NO violent religions.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

My line of thinking? I didn't state that the actions of a few reflect upon the whole group. However, I am agreeing with others that comparing Christian extremists to radical Islam is a failure. At least, not when you consider the end result of their philosophies and actions. Having bad or even violent ideas doesn't make a person violent or a terrorist--although those ideas can eventually shape into something of that sort. It is actions that make one violent or not.

So, with that said, how is Islam NOT the most violent religion in the world--counting only the radical elements? What religion is more violent?

As Muslims have not implemented separate bathrooms nor put non-Muslims in the back of buses yet followed by burning crosses and lynchings I am not sure that somehow "credit" for the actions of a gay FBI director in shutting down christian violence across our own country is yours or your colleagues to take.

Otherwise, recent history aside, the cruelty of christian rule culminated in a constitution that STILL required said federal authorities, after decades, to take action to enforce.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Most Muslim countries have been the victim of either christian colonialization or outright christian invasion. Unfortunately, this past behavior has earned as much intolerance for the christian faith as I fear behavior by Islamic extremists will earn for Islam

Here's a small bit of foundation upon which we can agree. It doesn't take a whole lot of terror to spark prejudice and bigotry.