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Old 11-17-2020, 09:26 AM
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You’re right Easias, God is interested in a nation.

1 Peter 2:9 KJVS
[9] But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:


Galatians 3:28 KJVS
[28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.


It’s not about NATIONS anymore. I understand some are still living in the Old Covenant, where it was about a nation of people, but not anymore.

I understand “Nations” that those verses are talking about. It’s not what I’m referring to.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD.... thats the church.
Jesus commissioned the church to disciple the nations. Therefore God is concerned with the nations.

The apostle said the mystery has been revealed for the purpose of securing the faithful obedience of all nations.

The Revelation states the church is to receive the honour of the nations that are saved.

Your statement that God doesn't care about nations anymore is clearly wrong.
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I think spiritual freedom and natural freedom are linked. This is why John Adams said our form of government was only suited for a godly people.
Which means America is no longer suitable for Constitutional government, then.
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Which means America is no longer suitable for Constitutional government, then.
I think there are still plenty of godly people who deserve it.
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I think there are still plenty of godly people who deserve it.
Yet, we are told not to be tied together in an unequal yoke.
Light cannot be compatible with darkness. Godly in this day and age is far different then it was to John Adams. Actually those living in the 1700s would be appalled at what we deem “godly”
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Does anyone have any clue where to buy ammo in bulk right now????? It's nearly impossible to get more than one box.
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Jesus commissioned the church to disciple the nations. Therefore God is concerned with the nations.

The apostle said the mystery has been revealed for the purpose of securing the faithful obedience of all nations.

The Revelation states the church is to receive the honour of the nations that are saved.

Your statement that God doesn't care about nations anymore is clearly wrong.
Ok. Time will tell.

Is that people of nationalities or nations as in complete countries?
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Does anyone have any clue where to buy ammo in bulk right now????? It's nearly impossible to get more than one box.
All out in Utah.

A man in the church is part of the 3%er’s, they have been contacted by the FBI, and are now training in the northern states winter military style. There is over 6000 in his group alone in Utah, not including the proud boys. He has the revelation of what the church is, he is seeking to leave the group. Yet, it tells you something is stirring up.
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I think there are still plenty of godly people who deserve it.
Nobody DESERVES anything but the lake of fire.

But as for the nation, the nation has collectively sinned, and is collectively still in rebellion against God. Therefore the nation is not godly. Therefore the nation is not currently suited for Constitutional government. Which is why we haven't had Constitutional government for a century or more. Neither the federal nor state nor local governments actually adhere to the Constitution. They will cite the Constitution when it suits them, and disregard it when it suits them. So Adams was right, and we are reaping what we have sown.

I have no doubt there are godly people in the nation. I have no doubt that is the reason why there still is a nation. But until we see a national movement towards repentance there will be no national reformation. And until the church begins preaching and living that repentance, the nation will continue to blunder along towards the pit. The church's mission in America is to disciple America to obey Christ in all things.

Once that mission is taken seriously, the nation will experience REAL revival, a REAL turning back to God, a REAL reformation. It won't be instantaneous, we didn't get in this mess overnight and we aren't getting out of it overnight. But the process begins with you and me submitting to God's Word in all things, and US showing our neighbor how and why that is and must be done. From there it spreads, until the nation is no longer suited for the corruption and tyranny we currently have, and so the system is "turned upside down" and righteousness is established.

As go the people, so goes the government.
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Does anyone have any clue where to buy ammo in bulk right now????? It's nearly impossible to get more than one box.
A little late to the party, I see.

Try www.ammoseek.com it will give you possible sources if any are to be found.
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Ok. Time will tell.

Is that people of nationalities or nations as in complete countries?
A country is a land, a state is a political entity, a nation is a people related to one another by common ancestry and culture and usually language.
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