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12-17-2013, 08:48 AM
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Re: Back with some new perspective
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Well, where did she get her UPC theology? She has said she is identifying that it was not her own but what she was taught and took on as her own. Anyway, it appears her husband first introduced her to this newer thinking and then, after she finally, actually looked at it and considered it, rather than giving conditioned responses, she began to understand it and it became her own. That's how I am reading what she is writing. Of course, there is a logical concern that it really is her own, because she is used to taking on other's beliefs as her own as a way of life, but hopefully that is not the case this time.
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Of course it is the case this time.
Any ideology that is introduced to us becomes our own when we embrace it. Hence, she embraced her husband's ideology, which isn't any different than someone who has embraced the UPC ideology.
The UPC, basically, follows what people were doing for years in this country - long hair on women and dresses. They feel it should stay that way. You can be a part of that ideology or not.
It doesn't make any difference to me what anyone wants to do or believe. I am just pointing out that RM is doing the same thing she did before - embracing an introduced ideology. And I might add with as much zeal and passion as before. 
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12-17-2013, 08:50 AM
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Re: Back with some new perspective
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I confess, this thread brought tears to my eyes. When I think of how we used to go head to head all of those years ago (You would have known me then as Michlow). I think if I had been asked to name people who would never go "liberal" you would have been #2, only after Steve Epley.
I am so glad that I happened to be lurking today for the first time in months, because this made my day!
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LOL! And would you be even happier if her husband was an atheist?
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12-17-2013, 12:50 PM
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Re: Back with some new perspective
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It doesn't make any difference to me what anyone wants to do or believe. I am just pointing out that RM is doing the same thing she did before - embracing an introduced ideology. And I might add with as much zeal and passion as before.
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I think she seems quite cautious. A different Roxanne than we once knew. It is very tough to come out of the UPC.
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12-17-2013, 12:58 PM
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Re: Back with some new perspective
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LOL! And would you be even happier if her husband was an atheist? |
The emoticon doesn't do anything to sweeten this comment. Js.
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12-17-2013, 01:06 PM
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Re: Back with some new perspective
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I think she seems quite cautious.
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The sig line gives a different impression.
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12-17-2013, 01:21 PM
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Re: Back with some new perspective
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The emoticon doesn't do anything to sweeten this comment. Js.
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Except that I didn't choose that particular emoticon to sweeten anything. 
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12-17-2013, 01:22 PM
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The sig line gives a different impression.
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12-17-2013, 01:31 PM
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Re: Back with some new perspective
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The sig line gives a different impression.
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Just a statement of fact.
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12-17-2013, 01:40 PM
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Re: Back with some new perspective
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Just a statement of fact.
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Not a very cautious one at that...
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12-17-2013, 01:50 PM
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Re: Back with some new perspective
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Not a very cautious one at that...
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It is if it is the conclusion she has already come to after a long time of searching.
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