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01-17-2018, 08:28 AM
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Can a plant be a "spirit"?
I was in a discussion with a good friend the other day about the current trends in legalization involving the medicinal use and the recreational use of marijuana. He mentioned something that I've always heard, but I've never seen any Scripture. He said, " marijuana is a spirit". I've been studying my Bible on this for the past couple days and I've not found any place wherein Satan has created a plant or herb. Nor have I found anything indicating that evil spirits have transformed themselves into any plants or herbs. What I did find was that God appears to be the creator of all plants and herbs:
Genesis 1:11-12 King James Version (KJV)
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. I also discovered that it appears that God has given man free reign to use various plants and herbs for consumption:
Genesis 1:29 King James Version (KJV)
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Can anyone provide a Scripture indicating that this plant is a "spirit"?
Is it possible that the church has been overreacting regarding this plant?
Could legalization for medicinal purposes be more in line with Scripture?
Please share any thoughts, insights, or Scriptures relating to the prohibition or legalization of this plant.
Please also share any thoughts, insights, or Scriptures relating this plant's creation, purpose, use, and if this plant is a "spirit" or not.
Thanks.
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01-17-2018, 08:44 AM
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Re: Can a plant be a "spirit"?
It is not a "spirit", but an incoherent.
It has mind numbing effects, which folks in pain need to help their suffering.
I am not opposed to pain killers when pain is intense.
My kidney stone 4 years ago made me clear on that....LOL
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01-17-2018, 09:19 AM
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Re: Can a plant be a "spirit"?
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Originally Posted by Sean
It is not a "spirit", but an incoherent.
It has mind numbing effects, which folks in pain need to help their suffering.
I am not opposed to pain killers when pain is intense.
My kidney stone 4 years ago made me clear on that....LOL
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I too see it as an intoxicant that can be used to help individuals with various conditions and anxiety disorders. But, as with anything (prescription drugs, food, sex, superglue), it can be abused.
I'd recommend approaching its use the way we'd approach alcohol. Drunkenness is a sin. If one is so intoxicated that they cannot stand or remember their name, they have clearly sinned, regardless as to if the intoxicant was with alcohol or weed.
From a political perspective, I think the prohibition of this plant is getting silly. The prohibition of this is costing lives (cops and criminals), ruining lives (through criminal charges and prison time), and costing an unbelievable amount of money to police. No one has ever died from an overdose of weed. And typically those who have over done it are not violent. They are real calm, often eat a full bag of Doritos and an entire box of doughnuts while watching Mystery Science Theater as they giggle and laugh like goof-balls, and then they fall asleep. I have alcoholics in my family. I'd rather deal with a stoner over an alcoholic any day.
I'm for legalization. I believe we should move full bore into studying its medicinal properties. This could lead to ground breaking medications and treatments. We can also tax it, sell it, and regulate its use like we do wine and spirits. This would generate revenue, end the blood bath over this weed in the drug war, tear the floor out of the black market value of the plant, bring advances in medicine, and expand human liberty where no life and/or property is in danger.
It's a plant. An herb. God made it and God said, "I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." It's time we realize that, like wine and so many other herbs that actually help the body, it is a gift from God.
Some scholars believe that the "kaneh-bosm" as mentioned in Scripture is the "cannabos" (cannabis) mentioned in the Talmud. If so, it would have been an ingredient the holy incense and the holy anointing oil that was administered to the priests, to bless objects, and the sick.
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01-17-2018, 10:12 AM
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Re: Can a plant be a "spirit"?
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Originally Posted by Aquila
It's a plant. An herb.
it is a gift from God.
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Opium?
Cocaine?
And further down the drain we go.
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01-17-2018, 11:03 AM
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Re: Can a plant be a "spirit"?
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It's a plant. An herb.
it is a gift from God.
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Opium?
Cocaine?
And further down the drain we go.
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Arsenic is natural, which means God created it as well. Funny how no one suggests ingesting that.
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01-17-2018, 03:27 PM
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Re: Can a plant be a "spirit"?
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Arsenic is natural, which means God created it as well. Funny how no one suggests ingesting that.
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I'll tell you what... you drink an ounce of arsenic once a week for a year, and we'll compare your progress to a person who smokes an ounce of marijuana once a week for a year to treat the symptoms of Parkinson's... and maybe we'll better understand why we suggest not ingesting arsenic. lol
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01-17-2018, 03:10 PM
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Re: Can a plant be a "spirit"?
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Opium?
Cocaine?
And further down the drain we go.
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You're right. We must be careful.
Any drug that can kill a person with an overdose should be regulated more heavily. And research using those drugs should be in a controlled environment.
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01-25-2018, 11:20 AM
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Re: Can a plant be a "spirit"?
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It's a plant. An herb. God made it and God said, "I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." It's time we realize that, like wine and so many other herbs that actually help the body, it is a gift from God.
Some scholars believe that the "kaneh-bosm" as mentioned in Scripture is the "cannabos" (cannabis) mentioned in the Talmud. If so, it would have been an ingredient the holy incense and the holy anointing oil that was administered to the priests, to bless objects, and the sick.
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So now you are a Nudist Rasta Communist?
Listen bro, you aren't finding anything new.
So, now that we got that out of the way where is reefer in the talmud?
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01-25-2018, 01:40 PM
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Re: Can a plant be a "spirit"?
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So now you are a Nudist Rasta Communist?
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Nope. LOL
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Listen bro, you aren't finding anything new.
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I don't doubt that.
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So, now that we got that out of the way where is reefer in the talmud?
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I believe it is tied up in the debate over what was meant by "kannabosm".
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01-25-2018, 09:37 PM
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Re: Can a plant be a "spirit"?
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Nope. LOL
I don't doubt that.
I believe it is tied up in the debate over what was meant by "kannabosm".
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Yeah I know the whole deal about the break down of the word "cannabis." Yet, the religious consumption of reefer is more Hindu than Hebrew. The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross by John M. Allegro claims that Jesus and the apostles did shrooms. But, I never had anyone produce information that early first century Rabbis were doing shrooms or passing dubes. Reefer falls under sorceries which is the Greek φαρμακεία found in Revelation 18:23. So, for a Christian to kick back with a doobie while reading his KJV is inadvisable
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