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Old 08-30-2010, 07:13 PM
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Yes, hopefully in the near future ... It will be Memphis .. now that JC and Darcie are campus pastors in Cordova.
When you get your plans set let me know. I have a couple of customers in the Memphis area I might be able to visit and get together with you for lunch or coffee if you want to. I still haven't seen Eddie & Sherri's new sanctuary in JAX!
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I said it because I don't know if you left wing libbers have some modern take on scripture regarding this subject that us old fogies don't have!

Note I did not say that you did only that you might and it would be interesting to see what you guys think.

Mr. Smith, Left-wing Libber. Has kind of a nice ring to it.

When the bible says, "Thou shalt not", you need to look at the original Greek manuscripts. You'll find that when a predicate and a pronoun and an adverb, combined with a past participle, inverted through a subjective verb, are intersected with the word "Not", there is a Greek rule that actually makes a word mean the opposite. So when the bible says, "Thou shalt not commit fornication", the word "Not" means that you can't, NOT commit fornication, so in actuality, we're commanded to commit fornication. Not only is it not prohibited, it's commanded.

How's that for "Left-wing liberal"?
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Yes, hopefully in the near future ... It will be Memphis .. now that JC and Darcie are campus pastors in Cordova.
Maybe CC1 can plan a business trip during that visit and we can all go to Houston's!
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I missed the Nashville/Jackson crowd last week when we were at Clarksville for "Shema" Apostolic Homeschool/family gathering. Would LOVE to see you guys saints and sinners et al.
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Prophetic word: The death of this forum will not be its theological slant, or supposed lack thereof, but those whose seek to spiritualize politics.

Brilliant statement and this could apply to American Christianity.
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Mr. Smith, Left-wing Libber. Has kind of a nice ring to it.

When the bible says, "Thou shalt not", you need to look at the original Greek manuscripts. You'll find that when a predicate and a pronoun and an adverb, combined with a past participle, inverted through a subjective verb, are intersected with the word "Not", there is a Greek rule that actually makes a word mean the opposite. So when the bible says, "Thou shalt not commit fornication", the word "Not" means that you can't, NOT commit fornication, so in actuality, we're commanded to commit fornication. Not only is it not prohibited, it's commanded.

How's that for "Left-wing liberal"?
ROFLMBO!!!
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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I missed the Nashville/Jackson crowd last week when we were at Clarksville for "Shema" Apostolic Homeschool/family gathering. Would LOVE to see you guys saints and sinners et al.
Is "Shema" short for "Shemale" and some sort of transvestite gathering? I mean I believe in being inclusive but.........

Wish I could have seen you while you were in TN.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Is "Shema" short for "Shemale" and some sort of transvestite gathering? I mean I believe in being inclusive but.........

Wish I could have seen you while you were in TN.
You are one sick puppy but I still love ya - hence the sinner inclusion.
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Maybe you CC1 can plan a business trip during that visit and we can all go to Houston's!
Oh great. Now you have me fantasyzing about a salad from Houstons!!!!! Oh, and with their garlic cheese toast. Oh, and their homemade garlic ranch dressing. Absoutely the best salad in the world.

Sounds like a great idea!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Sex Before Marriage: Does God Approve?

Well, the correct answer for me would be:

I was a female before I married and I remained a female after I was married. I'm now divorced and I'm still a female. So my sex is female no matter what my maritial status is and I think God approves because - - he made me.
That's the best answer I read in this thread!
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