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11-08-2014, 09:46 AM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Hmmm interesting. Technically he never should have been a pastor right? The husband of 1 wife?
But what about Paul? He was an Apostle..was he married?
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All i'm saying is that God gives us instructions for every situation that comes our way. But do we listen, or step out on our own? I didn't say he should never have been a pastor, and don't know where you got that. In my opinion, if he used wisdom, he would not rush into the situation too soon.
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11-08-2014, 10:37 AM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Gone are the days when preachers look for A B C and D in a potential preachers wife. Now they settle for X X and X :-)
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post of the year !!!! bwhaahaha !!! ps they aint no confidentiallity when you call the Syracuse times ,we had a hooker in our church who bragged that she had over a 120 men ,keep da mouth shut girl !
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11-08-2014, 01:46 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I agree with the idea of marrying a new convert being problematic because of the maturity issue, but I think her "past" should be left alone entirely unless she revisits it. Even though it's public, I still don't think it should be dinnertime conversation for those of who are, essentially, now her fellow Christians.
Yes, and IMO that should be the only thing up for discussion. Hence my unofficial "title change."
As for the young man...this could be a case of what Dr. Laura Schlessinger calls "Damsel-In-Distress" syndrome. It's easy to assume that he's interested because of the industry she was involved in, but it's more likely that the pastor's son is trying to "save" her.
Regardless, I think this is their business, and I don't think it really belongs here. This is really, REALLY personal business. IMO.
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If you don't think it should be discussed here, why don't you lock the Thread, or better yet, just delete the whole discussion?
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11-08-2014, 02:31 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Yep, TMZ like work.
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It was the title of the article and it was not an expose'. The people seemed to be willing to be interviewed
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11-08-2014, 02:43 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
In my experience, I've seen plenty of people do a 180 degree change in order to date and marry someone in the church. A majority of the time, it doesn't end well.
There's a chance that all will end beautifully and this woman will have a powerful testimony. There's also a very good chance that it will all end in disaster. Not much wisdom of wait and see being used, IMO.
All I can do is pray that this doesn't give the local church a black eye. That is what matters most...the local Christian church and it's effect and reputation in the community.
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11-08-2014, 03:01 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
It could be hard though...particularly on a young inexperienced man. By inexperienced I don't mean sex. I mean just handling the pressure of everything including her older kids
But it may likely happen that, especially now that it's public, men will recognize her and say things. I hope he handles that well
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-08-2014, 05:08 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Originally Posted by n david
I may be wrong here, but I very highly doubt God had anything to do with this young Pastor rushing to get married to this woman. Hosea was told by God to marry Gomer, so God could show (through their marriage) His love for Israel.
You cannot honestly compare these two situations to be alike.
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Yes we hope she does not go the way of Gomer.
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11-08-2014, 09:19 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
The problem is not the past it is the present. Any minister marrying a brand new convert is not very wise. God surely can and will forgive her past. We all become new creatures with no past. Wisdom would tell any minister to wait and see some tract record.
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Wisdom is sorely lacking in my opinion, I agree with you, Steve.
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11-08-2014, 09:24 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
Has anyone considered the soul of the young lady who might read these terrible comments posted about her and she gets discouraged and backslides? Who's hands will her blood be on?
I would take this whole thing down for her sake!
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11-08-2014, 10:44 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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If you don't think it should be discussed here, why don't you lock the Thread, or better yet, just delete the whole discussion?
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...because I'm not in the habit of censoring threads or comments based on my personal opinion. That would be an abuse of my position as an admin. I was a plain old member here before I was ever a member of the admin team, and I've always been allowed to voice my opinions. My opinion is that this thread stinks. My opinion doesn't translate into admin action unless rules are also broken.
There are all sorts of conjectures we can make about the wisdom of this young man's choice in a wife, her sincerity, the future success or failure of their marriage, or even whether she will remain a Christian. I'm only saying that I don't think her past is an appropriate topic for the rest of us. That's all. I think most of us would feel protective about discussion of new converts in our home churches, and I have to wonder what makes this woman seem like fair game? Is it the nature of her past?
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