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Old 06-21-2013, 04:47 PM
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Re: Historical References Regarding 1st Cent. Bapt

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Maybe one should call upon the Jesus that Thomas called upon when he called him 'My Lord and my God'?
Yes, the Jesus that has the same God and Father as Mary and His brethern. I agree!!
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Old 06-21-2013, 07:28 PM
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I think it's related to this thread....which Jesus does one call upon in baptism, the one the Apostles called upon, the Son of God, or the Jesus which Jesus never addressed as Jesus (Jesus the Father or Jesus the Holy Ghost)?
Well, we have "Christ in you" --" in him dwells the fulness of the godhead bodily."

Also, "there is no other name under heaven where by we must be saved."

Also, New International Version (©2011)
"Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked. "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied.

Here Saul is shown his Lord Is named Jesus.
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Well, we have "Christ in you" --" in him dwells the fulness of the godhead bodily."

Also, "there is no other name under heaven where by we must be saved."
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Also, New International Version (©2011)
"Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked. "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied.

Here Saul is shown his Lord Is named Jesus.
Would this be the Lord Jesus who was crucified, dead three days, raised from the dead and ascended to His, Mary's, and His brethren's Father and God, God the Father. Would this be Jesus the Lamb of God ascending to Jesus the Father which is His, and Mary's and His brethren's Father and God?

Personally, I think it would be the Lord Jesus who isn't His, Mary's and His brethren's Father and God.
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Old 06-22-2013, 02:08 PM
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Would this be the Lord Jesus who was crucified, dead three days, raised from the dead and ascended to His, Mary's, and His brethren's Father and God, God the Father. Would this be Jesus the Lamb of God ascending to Jesus the Father which is His, and Mary's and His brethren's Father and God?

Personally, I think it would be the Lord Jesus who isn't His, Mary's and His brethren's Father and God.
Gets confusing when looking at it from a trinitarian view.
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Old 06-22-2013, 02:58 PM
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Gets confusing when looking at it from a trinitarian view.
Actually, I was looking at it from the oneness view of Jesus the Son of God and Jesus God the Father.

I'm just saying to call upon Jesus the Son of God, the Lamb of God.
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