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Old 07-23-2019, 10:13 AM
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Thank you for posting this. You are a great example of comparison between the fruits of those that have not received the spirit evidenced speaking in tongue’s, and those that have.
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Old 07-23-2019, 10:22 AM
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Good post. I appreciate your response.
Do you believe that Holy Ghost filled “tongue talkers” produce more abundant fruit, have a better understanding of holiness as another poster just posted, than those that are not Spirit filled evidenced by speaking in tongues?

Sometimes. Some seem to have a better grasp of inward holiness, but lack a bit on externals, however there are many who have a solid grasp of the external, but are glaring on their lack of internal holiness. The best to have is the reality of both, but this is where we must allow brethren to grow in grace.

Neither side should be boasting over the other as both may be deficient in the eyes of God. But for this reason we are granted the grace of God, that in our failings to live by His perfect standard, we are not consumed in wrath. Brethren who are lax on some external standards should be seeking to learn from their brethren with the greater, and those deficient in internal holiness should seek knowledge from those whith greater, and thus both sides grow continually in perfection and fellowship.

However, we should not be looking for truth in those who are unsaved. They may have good solid teachings on aspects of the Christian life, but they will be out of balance and missing important truths because they have not the Spirit of Truth, but rather they follow the idolatrous traditions of men, which will never save.
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He responded to you because you said one could find tongues in John 3. It does not say tongues in John 3, you put it there based upon your under/interpretation of other scriptures being what Jesus meant when he talked about the sound of the “wind impacting”.
I'm not putting anything there other than what Jesus said directly. "Sound" is not the swish of the wind of the clapping of the thunder. It's uttered words. Completely out of place in the natural context, but he wasn't referring to the natural context. He was referring to those that are born of the Spirit. They will be as the wind, with "uttered words" following them.
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I'm not putting anything there other than what Jesus said directly. "Sound" is not the swish of the wind of the clapping of the thunder. It's uttered words. Completely out of place in the natural context, but he wasn't referring to the natural context. He was referring to those that are born of the Spirit. They will be as the wind, with "uttered words" following them.
You are correct, but that is because you had teaching on this subject. Others just attended a church, got some sort of experience, after the years they end up here doubting what little they got in the first place. Jesus said the wind (Spirit) goes where it wants and you hear the sound. The English word sound is interpreted from the Greek word φωνὴν. Which is interpreted voice in these passages Matthew 12:19, Mark 15:37, Luke 3:22, Luke 9:36, Luke 11:27, Luke 17:13, John 3:29, John 5:37, John 10:4, John 10:5, Acts 2:14, Acts 4:24, Acts 9:4, Acts 12:14, Acts 14:11, Acts 22:9, Acts 22:14, Acts 22:22, Acts 26:14, Galatians 4:20, 2 Peter 1:18, Revelation 1:10, Revelation 1:12, Revelation 5:11, Revelation 6:6-7, Revelation 9:13, Revelation 10:4, Revelation 12:10, Revelation 14:2, Revelation 18:4, Revelation 19:1, and Revelation 19:6. Jesus is relaying in the poetic language of a prophet that you will hear the voice of the Holy Ghost in EVERYONE born of the Spirit.
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Thank you for posting this. You are a great example of comparison between the fruits of those that have not received the spirit evidenced speaking in tongue’s, and those that have.
Sadly some people here are fruits with a spirit.
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Re: Tongues- A sign or THE sign Of Spirit Infillin

Based on my aging memory , one could argue that John never wrote or mentioned or referred to glosslalia at all.

But I could be wrong.

I see no indicators in Jn. 3:8 that insist that "sound" refers specifically to any unique thing at all, let alone words.
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Why oh why won't AFF add a like button?

Man, we ought to picket or something.
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Gluten. Stop it, totally.
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