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Old 01-07-2009, 10:34 AM
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Why Does God Give the Baptism of the Holy Ghost?

Why does God give us the baptism of the Holy Ghost?

Is the gift a reward for a person's "perfect" repentance?

Is the gift given as a token of God's approval of us?

Why does God give the gift of the Holy Ghost to people who have not been baptized in Jesus' name?

How can they be qualified to receive it without baptism?

What is the purpose of Holy Ghost infilling?
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:05 AM
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Re: Why Does God Give the Baptism of the Holy Ghos

It's part of the new birth

It's part of the New convenant.

It helps us to overcome the word and our flesh'
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It's the earnest of our inheritance.

To teach us.

To give us boldness to testify about Christ.

There's probaby some things I'm missiing.
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:08 AM
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Re: Why Does God Give the Baptism of the Holy Ghos

Mizpeh, why did Holy Spirit baptism precede water baptism on the Day of Pentecost?
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:13 AM
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Re: Why Does God Give the Baptism of the Holy Ghos

Ok I know this is old news but how could Elizabeth be filled with the holyghost before pentecost. Are there 2 holyghost..... One before pentecost and one after.....
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:18 AM
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Re: Why Does God Give the Baptism of the Holy Ghos

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Ok I know this is old news but how could Elizabeth be filled with the holyghost before pentecost. Are there 2 holyghost..... One before pentecost and one after.....
It could have been a renewing? Or maybe "a taste of things to come" But there's defiantly only one Holy Ghost .
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Re: Why Does God Give the Baptism of the Holy Ghos

I do believe repentance has to be a precursor to receiving the Holy Ghost. God isn't going to forcefully fill an unrepentant heart!

Obviously the Holy Ghost can be poured out on someone who hasn't yet been baptized--it happened in scriptural examples. However, it seems that the apostles were fairly prompt about encouraging new believers to be baptized immediately, so I think they felt it was important.
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Re: Why Does God Give the Baptism of the Holy Ghos

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I do believe repentance has to be a precursor to receiving the Holy Ghost. God isn't going to forcefully fill an unrepentant heart!

Obviously the Holy Ghost can be poured out on someone who hasn't yet been baptized--it happened in scriptural examples. However, it seems that the apostles were fairly prompt about encouraging new believers to be baptized immediately, so I think they felt it was important.
and....wasn't that to declare to the public WHO they were following after they received the Holy Ghost?

Not so much they weren't saved until they were baptized, but to let everyone know they were saved?
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:24 AM
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Re: Why Does God Give the Baptism of the Holy Ghos

Please understand, I am not questioning the necessity of water baptism. Everyone here should already know that I am a strong water/Spirit advocate.

I am asking why God even offers such a thing as Holy Ghost baptism.

What is the purpose?

Mizpeh says the Holy Ghost is part of the new birth process.

Anyone else?
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Re: Why Does God Give the Baptism of the Holy Ghos

Ok if tongues are so important and to consider it the proof that you have the holyghost if it was that important do you think that it would have been mentioned that Elizabeth or any of the other ones that were filled with the holyghost to note they spoke in tongues.. Talking about recieving the holyghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues. I see tongues as a language to communicate gods messege in Acts not the stuff that is heard in churches today I do not link the holyghost and tongues together I just think god blessed them in Acts to be able to get the messege across in a language that other could understand. So my answer is he gave us the baptism of the holyghost because he promised it to us.
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Re: Why Does God Give the Baptism of the Holy Ghos

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and....wasn't that to declare to the public WHO they were following after they received the Holy Ghost?

Not so much they weren't saved until they were baptized, but to let everyone know they were saved?
Why does anyone need to know I am saved???
It was actually a command in the Bible.
Acts 10:48And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Sounds Salvational to me.
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