Be Perfect Be Pure - Page 3

Evang.Benincasa · #21 06-08-2019, 03:04 PM

Ok, I guess he doesn’t know him or of him.

Yet, this is the tedious behavior one must deal with when conversing with Mike.

Perfect and pure.

Has anyone else watched Micheal Gibson’s video concerning his purity?

TakingDominion · #22 06-08-2019, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Ok, I guess he doesn’t know him or of him.

Yet, this is the tedious behavior one must deal with when conversing with Mike.

Perfect and pure.

Has anyone else watched Micheal Gibson’s video concerning his purity?

Started it... Didn't finish

I did notice that his beard looks much shorter in the video than in his profile picture. Progress!

Evang.Benincasa · #23 06-08-2019, 04:31 PM

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Started it... Didn't finish

Come on, please. It is only three videos. For discussion sake?

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I did notice that his beard looks much shorter in the video than in his profile picture. Progress!

I think I said this before it must be a testosterone deficiency. Beard falling out. It is one thing to go bald it is another thing to have your facial hair disappear without the aid of a razor, or some other barber shop means.

Evang.Benincasa · #24 06-09-2019, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk

MTD: "This is hilarious even to a guy who doesnt do humor well!"

Your sentence structure, misspelling, and lack of punctuation are what's hilarious.

I asked YOU two simple questions about YOUR view of perfection, and you answered me by complaining about questions you've had on EV's position on eschatology"? What is the deal?? Is he my dad or something?? Then you say I am guilty of "injecting that into the thread for distraction purposes"?

Well, so much for you providing a perfect answer...

Here's how I would have answered YOU if YOU had asked me THE SAME TWO QUESTIONS.

1. Do you feel you are completely perfect like Jesus Christ is perfect?

NO

2. If you do, please explain what "perfect" means to you.

Perfect means "spiritually mature." So, I am not completely like Christ today, but I certainly am not like I was when I first was saved either. It's like a 10-year-old son saying he's not as mature as his 30-year-old father, but he's also more mature than when he was a 2-year-old toddler.

The Bible says, "For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified."....(Hebrews 10:14) Did you see it? "BEING". It speaks of a process of BEING perfected.

Look at that--I didn't even need to post three videos or start a new thread...now that is what I call PERFECTION!

Mike, why didn't you answer this post?

You are pure, please answer this post with some of your purity.

Evang.Benincasa · #25 06-09-2019, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk

I watched all three of your video teachings. Here's what I gathered:

a saint is to perfectly keep all that Jesus commanded
if a saint does not keep all Jesus commanded they are not perfect.
being perfect is more than what other preachers say it is
but you know what perfect actually means
perfect isn't just "complete" - it also means "obedience"
And unlike others, you keep all the commandments, thus, you are perfect.

Did I hear you correctly? If not, please explain.

Mike, after me watching all three of your videos I came away with the same thoughts. Especially your last video. You make it out that if someone doesn't believe everything that you believe we are not perfect. Unless you keep all the commandments then we are not perfect, therefore it then flows right into you being perfect in all your beliefs.

Evang.Benincasa · #26 06-09-2019, 05:18 PM

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His EXPERIENCE in Christ was not yet FULL.....in the sense of "complete" or "finished".

Therefore he wasn't yet perfected?

Costeon · #27 06-10-2019, 09:30 AM

Since I first got on this forum a couple of years ago, I have been surprised a few times at some posts in which someone had apparently claimed to be perfect without any sin. If our salvation is dependent on my moment by moment obedience--my perfection--then I am in effect saving myself. If I lose my justified status the instant I have failed in any way, then my justification is based on me not on Christ.

Michael The Disciple · #28 06-10-2019, 10:25 AM

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Costeon

Since I first got on this forum a couple of years ago, I have been surprised a few times at some posts in which someone had apparently claimed to be perfect without any sin.

So you think Spirit filled Christians can't be sin free? Did you watch my videos?

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If our salvation is dependent on my moment by moment obedience--my perfection--then I am in effect saving myself. If I lose my justified status the instant I have failed in any way, then my justification is based on me not on Christ.

Can you show anywhere that I said or wrote that the instant someone sins they lose their justified status?

If Jesus Christ is in someone every moment HE IS SAVING THEM minute by minute by his Spirit.

Romans 5:10

10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Our salvation is not BASED on our obedience. But our obedience IS an essential part of its finality.

1 John 2:17

17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Evang.Benincasa · #29 06-10-2019, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Costeon

Since I first got on this forum a couple of years ago, I have been surprised a few times at some posts in which someone had apparently claimed to be perfect without any sin. If our salvation is dependent on my moment by moment obedience--my perfection--then I am in effect saving myself. If I lose my justified status the instant I have failed in any way, then my justification is based on me not on Christ.

You have an excellent point.

But to really appreciate what we are actually talking about. You would need to at least watch the last video. I know I’m handing out homework with everyones already busy schedule. But one needs to watch the video or videos to understand what is really being commented on.

Ehud · #30 06-10-2019, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You have an excellent point.

But to really appreciate what we are actually talking about. You would need to at least watch the last video. I know I’m handing out homework with everyones already busy schedule. But one needs to watch the video or videos to understand what is really being commented on.

Just to be clear, are you referring to the thread "Perfect In God's Will Part 2 Video?"