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Old 09-04-2008, 07:42 PM
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Re: The Assembly of God is NOT Pentecostal!!!

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The question was what verse equates repentance and forgiveness of sins.
AND baptism as well.
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:43 PM
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Luke 15:7 (New International Version)

I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Why is their joy in heaven over repentance, could it be that Jesus is equating repentance to salvation?
No doubt repentance is linked to salvation but it is not salvation in and of itself.
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Re: The Assembly of God is NOT Pentecostal!!!

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The question was what verse equates repentance and forgiveness of sins.
Yes, but what verse equates forgiveness with salvation? Is that all salvation means to you?
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No doubt repentance is linked to salvation but it is not salvation in and of itself.
Again you refuse to start with repentance you want to run ahead and throw other things in there.

Simple question does God forgive your sins when you Repent?
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Yes, but what verse equates forgiveness with salvation? Is that all salvation means to you?
If sin is the issue and sin is forgiven the logical result is salvation.
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If sin is the issue and sin is forgiven the logical result is salvation.
I'm not talking the logical deduction...that is dangerous ground. I'm talking the scriptural position that salvation is simple forgiveness and no more.
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I'm not talking the logical deduction...that is dangerous ground. I'm talking the scriptural position that salvation is simple forgiveness and no more.
So logic goes out the window when you read Scripture? No danger in logic.
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The Pentecostals, are just a minute part of the family of God. The family of God is much broader than many of us realize. I get so tired of defending other believers from those of us who are elitest and exclusionary.

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Can we say DISRESPECTFUL or Dan just being Dan?
I'll tell you what is disrespectful ... trampling on the blood of Jesus by adding to it's efficaciousness through adding extra-biblical hoops.

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So logic goes out the window when you read Scripture? No danger in logic.
There is danger in logic outside of a Scriptural assertion in my opinion. If the very elect are going to be deceived, by definition it will be a function of their wrong thinking.
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