The Christian Right - Page 6

Esphes45 · #51 05-23-2016, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by good samaritan

Homosexuals do not vote their values? Of course they do. They vote for candidates who stand in their corner. This is like saying I can vote for people who represent myself, but you don't need to vote for someone who represents you. If every thing is done accordingly to the constitution we can say we have done it to ourselves. The problem is the executive branch seems to be making decree's on law and that is not the way things are supposed to work.

Homosexuals vote their interests, not their values. There is a difference.

Esphes45 · #52 05-23-2016, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

In my opinion, unless something endangers another's life, liberty, or property.... the government should leave it alone.

I don't think it is the government's business what we do in our bedrooms or with whom we do it.

I don't think it is the government's business to tell us who we can or cannot marry.

While I think abortion is a tragedy, I don't trust the government to make the most difficult decisions regarding life or death as it relates to reproductive health.

In my opinion, the government should be a neutral party, working for the general welfare of all citizens regardless of race, gender, age, religion, sexual orientation, or political affiliation.

Here's what I'd like to see as far as a political agenda:

1.) End unjustified wars and occupation.
2.) Universal healthcare.
3.) Social justice for the poor, vulnerable, and working class.
4.) Curtail corporate power in politics.
5.) Address climate change and support environmental protection & conservation to create a better and cleaner world.
6.) End voter suppression.
7.) Create jobs by rebuilding America.
8.) Strengthen American labor.
9.) Affirm both civil rights and human rights.
10.) End mass criminalization.

You would be labeled a Socialist in the US, not a Christian.

Esphes45 · #53 05-23-2016, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

They all throw around the term "Christian", but I'm 40 years old and the only President I'd say was truly a "Christian" was (love him or hate him) President Carter.

As for our government, it is a Constitutional Republic with democratically elected representatives. And no religious test should be used to determine eligibility for office.

Esphes45 · #54 05-23-2016, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

The painful truth is, in this world, your kids are more likely to be sexually assaulted at church than in a public bathroom.

I hate to have to agree with you. It's a shame.

Esphes45 · #55 05-23-2016, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

why should we not attempt to influence our country and encourage our leaders to uphold godly principles?

Osama Bin Laden thought he had godly principles.
Hitler thought he had godly principles.
White people in the US in the 1800s thought they had godly principles.

The point being is that your godly principles are not everyone's godly principles and because of that everyone should not be held to them.

Jason B · #56 05-23-2016, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Esphes45

Osama Bin Laden thought he had godly principles.
Hitler thought he had godly principles.
White people in the US in the 1800s thought they had godly principles.

The point being is that your godly principles are not everyone's godly principles and because of that everyone should not be held to them.

Osama. Hitler. Slave traders. And Bible believing Christians.....all the same to you.

Yawn.

It's not even worth my time to engage such absurdity.

good samaritan · #57 05-23-2016, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Esphes45

Homosexuals vote their interests, not their values. There is a difference.

Agreed

good samaritan · #58 05-23-2016, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Osama. Hitler. Slave traders. And Bible believing Christians.....all the same to you.

Yawn.

It's not even worth my time to engage such absurdity.

shazeep · #59 05-24-2016, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Osama. Hitler. Slave traders. And Bible believing Christians.....all the same to you.

Yawn.

It's not even worth my time to engage such absurdity.

it is tempting to say that, and does seem absurd, until one considers that Hitler was elected into office, and slave trading was legal. I doubt E45 is trying to conflate these with..."true believers?" but to make a different point, which i can see in my mind, but can't seem to put words to. Christ rejected a worldly crown, yet we imagine that we can legislate the advance of the kingdom, perhaps. It is tempting for me to imagine that i would be a Godly potus if i had the chance, or that i might elect a Godly potus, but i think these are both illusions.

aegsm76 · #60 05-24-2016, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

it is tempting to say that, and does seem absurd, until one considers that Hitler was elected into office, and slave trading was legal. I doubt E45 is trying to conflate these with..."true believers?" but to make a different point, which i can see in my mind, but can't seem to put words to. Christ rejected a worldly crown, yet we imagine that we can legislate the advance of the kingdom, perhaps. It is tempting for me to imagine that i would be a Godly potus if i had the chance, or that i might elect a Godly potus, but i think these are both illusions.

shaz - slavery has been around since the beginning of time and is still here.
I would say that you have either consumed products from modern day slaves or have those products in your home, currently.