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Old 06-18-2019, 09:38 AM
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Oh Bro. Benincasa! That means that I cant hide in the crowd and give lip service! You mean I gotta actually obey the voice of the Lord myself and personally obey?

Sounds like there is some "collectivist" mindsets we need to separate ourselves from...this "gotta get it done through the group"

Makes you wonder if when the scripture says,"Lord didnt "we" do this in thy name?"

If the "we" being referred to is referencing themselves personally or a group they identified with that they just said "Since I belong to this group that does such and such Im automatically credited for doing those things even though I never really personally did them myself...."

Same with "revival"...

You can sit around waiting on the right sermon to be preached...the right song to be sung...the right youth leader to be hired...but what really matters is what we do as individuals...God doesnt grade on the curve...it will never be about what someone else did or didnt do but what YOU *me* did or didnt do.
Not sure you're reading the same posts as I am, because I haven't read any posts in this thread as described above. Are you addressing a specific post or just typing thoughts based on interactions with others not in this thread?
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Old 06-18-2019, 09:49 AM
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Christians in the plural isn’t what I’m talking about. The drawn circle around us is all that matters. Everything must begin with us being on fire. Anything I ever wanted in my life it was me who needed to make the decision to act and carry it out. I always remember my church Brother Noah Goldberg running around with his Bible opened up to the book of Acts. He kept asking all the elders when we will do all the things in the book of Acts. When he got to me I just said to him “do it!” He and his wife went and did it. All night prayer meetings before we would have service. Great Holy Ghost services. Christians? No, Christian. You make the difference. You are the movement, you are the change.
I understand Christians in plural isn't what you were addressing; however, the plural is what was being addressed in the post first in my post here:

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What has changed? This is not a new phenomenon. Ministry has always been under attack, always had stressful issues and discouraging situations. Yet only in the past decade or so are we hearing of ministers and saints on mood altering drugs or ministers committing suicide.
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not sure what the problem is, but I can say I dont think folks pray now like the used to.
I think it was a Verbal Bean book I read that he made the comment that his elders at the time believed that a person wouldnt make it if they didnt pray at least three hours a day. Bro. Bean said he believed that a person wouldnt make it if they didnt pray at least one hour a day.

I wander what that has dwindled down to in our generation.
And you then replied to A1 by changing the subject to individual responsibility -- which I don't believe anyone would argue your point.

But would you agree that things are not the same as they once were? People aren't as committed as in past decades. People are more distracted by jobs and entertainment than in previous decades.

Back to the topic of the thread and I'll pose my original question to you: What has changed? This is not a new phenomenon. Ministry has always been under attack, always had stressful issues and discouraging situations. Yet only in the past decade or so are we hearing of ministers and saints on mood altering drugs or ministers committing suicide. Why do you believe this is?

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Old 06-18-2019, 12:04 PM
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I understand Christians in plural isn't what you were addressing; however, the plural is what was being addressed in the post first in my post here:



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And you then replied to A1 by changing the subject to individual responsibility -- which I don't believe anyone would argue your point.

But would you agree that things are not the same as they once were? People aren't as committed as in past decades. People are more distracted by jobs and entertainment than in previous decades.

Back to the topic of the thread and I'll pose my original question to you: What has changed? This is not a new phenomenon. Ministry has always been under attack, always had stressful issues and discouraging situations. Yet only in the past decade or so are we hearing of ministers and saints on mood altering drugs or ministers committing suicide. Why do you believe this is?
Short Answer.. from the research I have done I would contribute 50% of the problem to DIET!!
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Old 06-18-2019, 12:26 PM
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Short Answer.. from the research I have done I would contribute 50% of the problem to DIET!!
Please explain. You're saying from what you've read, mental illness could be traced to diet?
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Old 06-18-2019, 12:33 PM
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Please explain. You're saying from what you've read, mental illness could be traced to diet?
referring to what people preach and teach mixed with luxury, entertainment, and laziness.
but there is that problem in every generation im sure.
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Old 06-18-2019, 04:15 PM
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referring to what people preach and teach mixed with luxury, entertainment, and laziness.
but there is that problem in every generation im sure.
I am referring to the things we put in our mouth and into our body!
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Old 06-18-2019, 04:28 PM
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I am referring to the things we put in our mouth and into our body!
"""Recent studies have shown "the risk of depression increases about 80% when you compare teens with the lowest-quality diet, or what we call the Western diet, to those who eat a higher-quality, whole-foods diet. The risk of attention-deficit disorder (ADD) doubles," Ramsey says."""

"""There is also interest in the possible role food allergies may play in schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, she says."""

"""Here are some more details on how good nutrition impacts brain health:

1. It's crucial for brain development.

"We are, quite literally, what we eat," says Roxanne Sukol, MD, preventive medicine specialist at Cleveland Clinic's Wellness Institute. "When we eat real food that nourishes us, it becomes the protein-building blocks, enzymes, brain tissue, and neurotransmitters that transfer information and signals between various parts of the brain and body."

2. Itputs the brain into grow mode.

Certain nutrients and dietary patterns are linked to changes in a brain protein that helps increase connections between brain cells. A diet rich in nutrients like omega-3s and zinc boosts levels of this substance.

On the other hand, "a diet high in saturated fats and refined sugars has a very potent negative impact on brain proteins," Jacka says.

3. It fills the gut with healthy bacteria.

And that's good for the brain. Trillions of good bacteria live in the gut. They fend off bad germs and keep your immune system in check, which means they help tame inflammation in the body. Some gut germs even help make brain-powering B vitamins.

Foods with beneficial bacteria (probiotics) help maintain a healthy gut environment, or "biome." "A healthier microbiome is going to decrease inflammation, which affects mood and cognition," Ramsey says.

A high-fat or high-sugar diet is bad for gut health and, therefore, your brain. Some research hints that a high-sugar diet worsens schizophrenia symptoms, too."""
  • B vitamins. People with low B12 levels have more brain inflammation and higher rates of depression and dementia. Falling short on folate has long been linked to low moods.
  • Iron. Too little iron in the blood (iron-deficiency anemia) has been linked to depression.
  • Omega-3s. These healthy fatty acids improve thinking and memory and, possibly, mood.
  • Zinc. This nutrient helps control the body's response to stress. Low levels can cause depression. A great source is oysters, which pack 500% of your daily need of zinc but have just 10 calories apiece, Ramsey says. Mussels, which are rich in brain-healthy selenium, are also a good choice.

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/...ental-health#1
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Old 06-18-2019, 06:56 PM
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I understand Christians in plural isn't what you were addressing; however, the plural is what was being addressed in the post first in my post here:



A1 responded with this:


And you then replied to A1 by changing the subject to individual responsibility -- which I don't believe anyone would argue your point.

But would you agree that things are not the same as they once were? People aren't as committed as in past decades. People are more distracted by jobs and entertainment than in previous decades.
People have always been distracted with life, nothing has changed. People are dead heads who are apt to get religious. They cool down and cool off. Meanwhile one in the group gets on fire and then gets a wet blanket attack. Ministers have always been attacked, but while others go for mother's little helper, there are always that small few who are on their knees bombarding heaven.

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Back to the topic of the thread and I'll pose my original question to you: What has changed? This is not a new phenomenon. Ministry has always been under attack, always had stressful issues and discouraging situations. Yet only in the past decade or so are we hearing of ministers and saints on mood altering drugs or ministers committing suicide. Why do you believe this is?
I heard about ministers on mind meds going way back. One down in Miami was cleaning his gun and ended up shooting himself in the head. There was an old brother in the ALJC (he was over their book store) he wrote a book on this. He told me himself that he went to leap off a bridge. Yet, he knew it was a devil. Not a plate of hot wings and blue cheese dressing, but a devil. When we are doing what we do, we need to realize it isn't diet which is coming against us, because we wrestle not against chili cheese dogs, demonic forces in high places.
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But would you agree that things are not the same as they once were? People aren't as committed as in past decades. People are more distracted by jobs and entertainment than in previous decades.

Back to the topic of the thread and I'll pose my original question to you: What has changed? This is not a new phenomenon. Ministry has always been under attack, always had stressful issues and discouraging situations. Yet only in the past decade or so are we hearing of ministers and saints on mood altering drugs or ministers committing suicide. Why do you believe this is?
Americans and westerners in general have been brain damaged by vaccines, poisons in the food supply, medications, and a crippling public education system (K through college), a non stop media onslaught of mind crippling propaganda, cell tower radiation, dithering in the digital broadcasts and lcd screens, good old fashioned fluoride in the water, heavy metals toxicity, aspartame, and so on and etc. Wait till 5G and 6G get rolled out in force, we haven't seen anything yet. HG Wells wasn't writing pure science fiction (he was a Fabian socialist very active in promoting the fundamental transformation of society to the humanists' high tech utopian paradise, as was Huxley).

This of course has affected the last several generations of people coming into the church. We are witnessing the rise of the Eloi and the creation of the Idiocracy.

And, all of it goes back to Deut 28.
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Americans and westerners in general have been brain damaged by vaccines, poisons in the food supply, medications, and a crippling public education system (K through college), a non stop media onslaught of mind crippling propaganda, cell tower radiation, dithering in the digital broadcasts and lcd screens, good old fashioned fluoride in the water, heavy metals toxicity, aspartame, and so on and etc. Wait till 5G and 6G get rolled out in force, we haven't seen anything yet. HG Wells wasn't writing pure science fiction (he was a Fabian socialist very active in promoting the fundamental transformation of society to the humanists' high tech utopian paradise, as was Huxley).

This of course has affected the last several generations of people coming into the church. We are witnessing the rise of the Eloi and the creation of the Idiocracy.

And, all of it goes back to Deut 28.
Eloi created by soy.
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