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Old 12-22-2017, 09:42 AM
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That is very simple. Information was gathered from the business community on how they would react to the implementation of Trump's plan. This is a nightmare scenario for Democrats and they know it.
Oh, so it's just "projections" and "promises". lol Now that's something to hang your hat on. Honestly, I'll be glad to see it, if it happens. But I think these corporations are just blowing smoke to try to help the GOP and the Trump Administration in the upcoming midterm.
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:42 AM
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Trump and Obama are just "eh".

We'll never know how Hillary would have managed things.

Frankly, I don't want to see the media give credit to Trump. I had to explain to my daughter why Christians overwhelmingly supported the "p***y grabber". She's 11 and she spoke with more clarity than I did. She said, "Dad, it's because she was a woman." And you know... I really can't refute her logic. Hillary had over 30 years of public service, help write dozens of bills, was instrumental in creating SCHIP (which insured over 8 million American kids in poverty), and I could go on. So, I think her being a woman was indeed a big factor. A male candidate, almost any male candidate, would have probably beat Trump. I do believe that Bernie Sanders would have mopped the floor with Trump. And I believe he still wants to. And... I'm all for it.

Trump is a spoiled, greedy, perverted, draft dodging, coward, of a buffoon who doesn't impress me one bit.
I see you are preempting the Democrat Party scheme for 2018. Yet you voted for Hillary who did her best to destroy Bill's victims. It's still hard for me to grasp how one who is so dead on when it comes to biblical matters could be so far off when it comes to politics. Bernie is as corrupt as they come. He was paid off to take a dive.
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:44 AM
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Corporatism thrived under Obama. Yet, the corporatists seem to hate Trump. Why is that?

The corporatists take-over was an indirect result of the outcome of the "Civil War". The Jeffersonian states understood all too well what was at stake and were willing to leave the Union to avoid being a part of it. The corporatists demanded war to force the Jeffersonians to comply.
Corporatists hate Trumpy??? He's their poster boy. LOL

We need to overturn Corporate Personhood and enforce the following standards that were once in place:
◾Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
◾Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
◾Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
◾Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
◾Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
◾Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.
So far, I don't think a single politician besides Bernie Sanders has the guts to even try it. Or maybe, Bernie is just CRAZY enough to take them on. Either way, I dig the guy. lol
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:46 AM
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Oh, so it's just "projections" and "promises". lol Now that's something to hang your hat on. Honestly, I'll be glad to see it, if it happens. But I think these corporations are just blowing smoke to try to help the GOP and the Trump Administration in the upcoming midterm.
You are playing dumb. The same kind of research was done among the business community before Obamacare was passed. The economic growth that is coming will neutralize the already phony "blue wave" in the 2018 mid-terms. So go ahead with your party and try to revive the Trump "sex abuse" nonsense. That's all you guys have left and its a losing strategy.
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I see you are preempting the Democrat Party scheme for 2018. Yet you voted for Hillary who did her best to destroy Bill's victims. It's still hard for me to grasp how one who is so dead on when it comes to biblical matters could be so far off when it comes to politics. Bernie is as corrupt as they come. He was paid off to take a dive.
Honolulu, I've seen the light! Praise Trump! lol

Bernie isn't perfect. But Bernie is far better than any of the idiots running the show right now.

And I haven't seen anything that comes CLOSE to the corruption that drips from Trump, leaving a slime trail every where he goes.
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:50 AM
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You are playing dumb. The same kind of research was done among the business community before Obamacare was passed. The economic growth that is coming will neutralize the already phony "blue wave" in the 2018 mid-terms. So go ahead with your party and try to revive the Trump "sex abuse" nonsense. That's all you guys have left and its a losing strategy.
The guy was caught on tape saying that stuff dude. It's not nonsense. He's our "P***y Grabber In Chief". Aka... pond scum. No one can vote for Trump and say a word about Bill Clinton.

Besides, didn't the Clintons and Trump party together? I'd not be surprised if they attended the same "parties".
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:51 AM
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Corporatists hate Trumpy??? He's their poster boy. LOL

We need to overturn Corporate Personhood and enforce the following standards that were once in place:
◾Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
◾Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
◾Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
◾Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
◾Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
◾Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.
So far, I don't think a single politician besides Bernie Sanders has the guts to even try it. Or maybe, Bernie is just CRAZY enough to take them on. Either way, I dig the guy. lol
You are till confusing "corporate charters" with "incorporation". Incorporation laws need to remain a state matter. People incorporate their businesses to protect themselves and it is a smart move. But incorporation is not some "right to exist" as you keep claiming. People can start businesses without incorporating. True, in early America some states actually required people to acquire "charters" to even exist, but it was not the case in every state.
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:53 AM
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The guy was caught on tape saying that stuff dude. It's not nonsense. He's our "P***y Grabber In Chief". Aka... pond scum. No one can vote for Trump and say a word about Bill Clinton.

Besides, didn't the Clintons and Trump party together? I'd not be surprised if they attended the same orgies.
Bill actually raped women. Trump did not. As a celebrity, some of Trump's filthy talk was caught on tape. Yet, politicians from both parties use their positions of authority to jump from one orgy to another where plenty of power hungry broads anxiously await their turn. That, sadly, is Washington.
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:55 AM
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He commuted the sentence of a Jewish Lubavitcher who had employed hundreds of illegals at his kosher meat packing plant, who was an embezzler and a swindler and a fraud...

Making America Great Again!

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The decision to intervene on behalf of Sholom Rubashkin, who ran the Iowa headquarters of a family business that was the country's largest kosher meat-processing company, came at the urging of numerous members of Congress and a long list of high-ranking law enforcement officials, who argued the sentence was far too harsh for a first-time, non-violent offender.
The action was "encouraged by bipartisan leaders from across the political spectrum, from Nancy Pelosi to Orrin Hatch," the White House said.

Rubashki was convicted in 2009 for submitting fake invoices to a bank that made Agriprocessors' finances appear healthier than they were so that it could borrow more. His prosecution came after federal authorities raided the plant and arrested 389 illegal immigrants in 2008.
The 57-year-old father of 10 has served more than eight years of his sentence, according to the White House, which stressed the action is not a presidential pardon and does not vacate Rubashkin's conviction.
Trump has used his pardon power just once so far: to spare former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio the prospect of serving jail time by wiping away a federal conviction stemming from immigration patrols that focused on Latinos.

Rubashkin's long-time attorney Guy Cook praised Trump's decision, saying Rubashkin "has finally received justice."
"The sentence previously imposed was unfair, unjust and essential a life sentence," he said via email. "President Trump has done what is right and just. The unrelenting efforts on Rubashkin's behalf have finally paid off."
So, in light of this information, was the intervention unjust? Do you think the guy's sentence was just? I personally do not care either way. But the information above does seem to neutralize your oversimplification of the matter.
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:59 AM
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Trump and Obama are just "eh".

We'll never know how Hillary would have managed things.

Frankly, I don't want to see the media give credit to Trump. I had to explain to my daughter why Christians overwhelmingly supported the "p***y grabber". She's 11 and she spoke with more clarity than I did. She said, "Dad, it's because she was a woman." And you know... I really can't refute her logic. Hillary had over 30 years of public service, help write dozens of bills, was instrumental in creating SCHIP (which insured over 8 million American kids in poverty), and I could go on. So, I think her being a woman was indeed a big factor. A male candidate, almost any male candidate, would have probably beat Trump. I do believe that Bernie Sanders would have mopped the floor with Trump. And I believe he still wants to. And... I'm all for it.

Trump is a spoiled, greedy, perverted, draft dodging, coward, of a buffoon who doesn't impress me one bit.
1) Of course you don't want any kind of credit given to Trump by anyone. However, had anyone said this about Obama, the claim would be made that they're racist and don't want to give credit because he's black.

2)I hope the term you used above was something your daughter heard on her own and not something her father told her about.

3) Instead of being honest and giving an important lesson to your daughter of the real reason Hillary wasn't elected (scandals, etc) you reinforced a terrible lie which will only hurt her later in life. It's an absolute and disgusting lie that she lost the race because she was a woman.

Shame on you.

Bernie Sanders is not going to win anything. His wife is under investigation and likely to be indicted and going to prison. He's far too socialist and radical for anyone to seriously consider - especially after the next few years of economic and job growth.

The real reason the radical left (including you) and the media don't want to acknowledge or give any credit to Trump is because they know it will ensure a landslide for GOP in 2018 and 2020 - including another term in office for Trump. The radical left and media desperately need Trump to fail in order for Democrats to win again.
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