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Old 09-05-2007, 05:33 PM
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All copyrighted material must be given credit and the source cited. If it's posted on the Internet you must provide a link. Posting only portions of quotes is allowed. Entire content or excessive quoting is not allowed, i.e., quoting 50% of a news article would be too much, unless you have direct permission. This keeps the forum in compliance to Copyright laws.
News article are not copy written.
I gave the source and the author.
No different then making a photo copy of a news article.
I just called Steve Shirley the owner of the "Daily Review". ANY article written from a news source is Open and fair game as long as "Quoted as written and without changes made to the original author".
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Old 09-05-2007, 05:35 PM
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I would agree that not all content on sites are copywritten ....but most news sites indeed copywrite their content.

Does the AFF policy only apply to copywritten material ... or is the policy a requirement to cite all outside sources w/ or w/o it being copywritten?

Does this apply to the citation of translations of scripture?
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Old 09-05-2007, 05:38 PM
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I would agree that not all content on sites are copywritten ....but most news sites indeed copywrite their content.

Does the AFF policy only apply to copywritten material ... or is the policy a requirement to cite all outside sources w/ or w/o it being copywritten?

Does this apply to the citation of translations of scripture?
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:45 PM
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News article are not copy written.
I gave the source and the author.
No different then making a photo copy of a news article.
I just called Steve Shirley the owner of the "Daily Review". ANY article written from a news source is Open and fair game as long as "Quoted as written and without changes made to the original author".
Are you sure News Articles are not copywritten?

You quoted from the Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/syndicatio...585126,00.html
Copyright is a property right. Copyright law protects copyright material from unauthorised use and provides a business framework for dealing in intellectual property. All Guardian and Observer material is copyright whether marked © or not.

Copyright applies globally and is regulated by a number of international treaties and conventions (including the Berne Convention, the Universal Copyright Convention, the Rome Convention and the Geneva Convention), so whether you are in the Antarctic or Zimbabwe, St Petersburg in Russia, or St Petersburg in Florida, you need to obtain permission to use copyright material before using it.


http://users.guardian.co.uk/help/art...933909,00.html
You must not reproduce any part of Guardian Unlimited or the material or transmit it to or store it in any other website or disseminate any part of the material in any other form, unless we have indicated that you may do so.
Our content distribution system which you can find at www.guardian.co.uk/headlineservice gives details of the manner in which we allow you to reproduce parts of our material on your site.
We may be prepared to allow you to distribute or reproduce other parts of Guardian Unlimited or the material in certain circumstances. Please email our Permissions Administrator Penny Jones at penny.jones@guardian.co.uk if you wish to apply for permission to do so.

Also read this
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use



Ok, now if you can get email permission from the editor to reproduce the ENTIRE content of an article, which they probably paid for and which is how they make their profit, please reproduce the email in the future for us to read. Otherwise don't just state that news articles are not copywritten



One more thing, the news item you linked to was from the AP...the AP sells that information to anyone who wants to buy it, which is where a lot of news sources get their information.

You may also read that here
http://www.associatedpress.com/pages/about/terms.html



Now what we are asking is to post no MORE than 50% of the content. Infact I would say we should limit it to 1/3 of the content.




I have contacted the editor of WND on this issue too and they concur they are fine with portions of quotes but to quote a lot is OUT OF THE QUESTION.

For now on, quote what you feel is important, tell people there are even more important parts they should read and then include the link.

Im going to address this issue again with admin because in the rules we say about 50% but even that I think news agencies would say is too much
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:41 PM
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I would agree that not all content on sites are copywritten ....but most news sites indeed copywrite their content.

Does the AFF policy only apply to copy written material ... or is the policy a requirement to cite all outside sources w/ or w/o it being copy written?

Does this apply to the citation of translations of scripture?
Copy written material can't be quoted at length and must be given the credit to the author and cite the source. If you are quoting from a web site post the URL...if it's a news item you can just post the URL.

If the material is public domain you should still cite the source to avoid plagiarism and give a URL if possible. One thing about giving the URL is we can see for ourselves if it is copy written and what, if any, restrictions apply.

With public domain material you are not restricted as to how much to quote, however you should still provide the source.

The many articles written by Jason Dulle are all NOT copywritten, however though you can quote en masse, you should still give credit to the author and name the source.
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  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:21 AM
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Better check those copyright laws again. You are making it much harder than it actually is.

Anything put into a tangible form, which includes online articles, pictures, movies, etc., is automatically covered under copyright the minute it takes on a tangible form. Ideas can not be copyrighted but the minute that idea takes on a tangible form, its copyright protected.

Copyright protection does NOT have to be filed for in order for the laws to apply but it is recommended in the event that legal action is necessary.

A copyright notification or symbol is NOT required either. It is the users responsibility to abide by copyright laws or obtain permission for use.

I'm a writer and graphic designer of both printed and online materials and have belonged to groups that do the same. We know the laws in order to protect our material. Mostly all we ask is for proper credit to be given. All it takes is a simple email to ask permission.
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Better check those copyright laws again. You are making it much harder than it actually is.

Anything put into a tangible form, which includes online articles, pictures, movies, etc., is automatically covered under copyright the minute it takes on a tangible form. Ideas can not be copyrighted but the minute that idea takes on a tangible form, its copyright protected.

Copyright protection does NOT have to be filed for in order for the laws to apply but it is recommended in the event that legal action is necessary.

A copyright notification or symbol is NOT required either. It is the users responsibility to abide by copyright laws or obtain permission for use.

I'm a writer and graphic designer of both printed and online materials and have belonged to groups that do the same. We know the laws in order to protect our material. Mostly all we ask is for proper credit to be given. All it takes is a simple email to ask permission.
And if you have permission, quote away.

Maybe everyone can get you to email for them!

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Old 09-06-2007, 09:01 AM
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what in the world is PO going to do now???
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:08 AM
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Most writers are truly happy to be quoted. We just don't want someone claiming the intellectual property we worked to create. The bible calls that stealing.

How hard is it to post a link or cite a source? Doing so shows that you are great at gathering relevant content, and very well read.
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what in the world is PO going to do now???
You tell me, she has bouncing email and has not been on here for days.

Actually her business became really really busy.

GASP- she got a life!!
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