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Old 03-29-2015, 02:14 AM
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Government conspiracy is a bible doctrine

Pharao conspired to enslave an entire ethnic group, Israel.

Pharao's government conspired to render Israel impotent by attacking and killing male Israelite babies.

The government of Moab hired a religious leader who taught them to promote immorality among the Israelites as a weapon to enslave and destroy them (Balak and Balaam).

OT history is FULL of government conspiracies, rich and powerful people plotting the enslavement and destruction of entire nations of people.

Herod attempted to kill Messiah by massacre of thousands of infants. He came up with the plan by consulting the Bible, by the way, thus showing that wicked rulers do sometimes know AND USE the Bible in a conspiratorial attempt to advance evil.

Psalm 83 speaks of a multinational conspiracy to destroy the children of Israel.

The Revelation is almost a running commentary on and inside look at a "world order" and it's conspiracies against God, the people of God, and the nations of the earth.

The Roman government conspired with Judean political and religious leadership to snatch-and-grab Jesus with a midnight SWAT raid, try him in a kangaroo court on trumped-up false charges, and then put him to death (murder, an illegal political execution).

After he was resurrected the Jewish leaders conspired to spread lies and propaganda in a disinfo campaign in which cops were bribed to lie and say His disciples stole His body.

Many times Jews (including powerful, wealthy, religious and political leadership) conspired to kidnap and assassinate the apostle Paul.

The idea of an evil, wicked government conspiring to do evil, harm people, kill them, enslave them, assassinate them, using lies, disinfo, religious ideas and even biblical truth to advance an evil ungodly agenda, is an idea THOROUGHLY supported by Scripture, it is a BIBLE DOCTRINE that such things are not only possible but STANDARD PROCEDURE for worldly authorities.

The whole world lieth in wickedness.
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Old 03-29-2015, 06:00 AM
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Re: Government conspiracy is a bible doctrine

Truth! We're in a war, a spiritual war, that shows itself in the natural.
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:24 AM
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Re: Government conspiracy is a bible doctrine

yup. and resistance is useless. pray for them, and move on, imo.
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:46 AM
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Re: Government conspiracy is a bible doctrine

Government of man versus government of God.

The government of man is always a pyramid scheme, goes back to Babylon.

God's government is a theocracy with Him speaking to each individual using the Spirit of God, the Word of God and the Man of God. The three-fold witness.

Same ol struggle just a different day. God always wins! Ask Pharoah!
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Old 03-29-2015, 04:51 PM
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Re: Government conspiracy is a bible doctrine

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Herod attempted to kill Messiah by massacre of thousands of infants. He came up with the plan by consulting the Bible, by the way, thus showing that wicked rulers do sometimes know AND USE the Bible in a conspiratorial attempt to advance evil.
Nope there were no thousands of infants in that region.

the babies murdered number at most a couple of hundredth.
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Old 03-29-2015, 05:38 PM
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Nope there were no thousands of infants in that region.

the babies murdered number at most a couple of hundredth.
Please demonstrate this (not trying to debate just wanting to be correct).

Not that it really changes the point, tho...
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I was wondering about his numbers also,...
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Apparently, the oldest traditions place the number at several thousand. The eastern orthodox church says 14,000, the syrians 64,000 (!). Some medieval authors claimed 144,000 which is obviously wrong.

Modern scholars claim between 10-20 or so only.

In any event, Herod tried to use the Bible to thwart God's Plan, and murdered babies to do it.
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Pharao conspired to enslave an entire ethnic group, Israel.

Pharao's government conspired to render Israel impotent by attacking and killing male Israelite babies.

The government of Moab hired a religious leader who taught them to promote immorality among the Israelites as a weapon to enslave and destroy them (Balak and Balaam).

OT history is FULL of government conspiracies, rich and powerful people plotting the enslavement and destruction of entire nations of people.

Herod attempted to kill Messiah by massacre of thousands of infants. He came up with the plan by consulting the Bible, by the way, thus showing that wicked rulers do sometimes know AND USE the Bible in a conspiratorial attempt to advance evil.

Psalm 83 speaks of a multinational conspiracy to destroy the children of Israel.

The Revelation is almost a running commentary on and inside look at a "world order" and it's conspiracies against God, the people of God, and the nations of the earth.

The Roman government conspired with Judean political and religious leadership to snatch-and-grab Jesus with a midnight SWAT raid, try him in a kangaroo court on trumped-up false charges, and then put him to death (murder, an illegal political execution).

After he was resurrected the Jewish leaders conspired to spread lies and propaganda in a disinfo campaign in which cops were bribed to lie and say His disciples stole His body.

Many times Jews (including powerful, wealthy, religious and political leadership) conspired to kidnap and assassinate the apostle Paul.

The idea of an evil, wicked government conspiring to do evil, harm people, kill them, enslave them, assassinate them, using lies, disinfo, religious ideas and even biblical truth to advance an evil ungodly agenda, is an idea THOROUGHLY supported by Scripture, it is a BIBLE DOCTRINE that such things are not only possible but STANDARD PROCEDURE for worldly authorities.

The whole world lieth in wickedness.
Amen.

The "government" has rarely, if ever, been a friend of the Church.
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Re: Government conspiracy is a bible doctrine

Government Conspiracy is a Bible doctrine does not make any sense.

Are you saying that it is biblical to believe in weird and whacked out government conspiracies because of what some of the governments in the Bible days did?

Isn't God in charge of the government?

Doesn't God ordain governments?

Doesn't God use governments for His Good and Perfect Will?

Isn't it true that people who believe in weird and whacked out government conspiracies USUALLY believe in other questionable ideas?
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