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Old 06-05-2007, 06:00 PM
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MorMons, not Morans...

Mormon Missionaries...

Has anyone here ever won any? I know of several former Mormons who have been won to truth, but I know of no Mormon missionaries who have been won during their mission.

Anyway, two are coming over to the "GL" house in about thirty minutes to "share." This should be interesting...
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:25 PM
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MorMons, not Morans...

Mormon Missionaries...

Has anyone here ever won any? I know of several former Mormons who have been won to truth, but I know of no Mormon missionaries who have been won during their mission.

Anyway, two are coming over to the "GL" house in about thirty minutes to "share." This should be interesting...
Have fun!!

I used to have a book on reaching Mormons, but don't know what became of it. They now give away bibles too, and are more slippery than ever.
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:26 PM
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MorMons, not Morans...

Mormon Missionaries...

Has anyone here ever won any? I know of several former Mormons who have been won to truth, but I know of no Mormon missionaries who have been won during their mission.

Anyway, two are coming over to the "GL" house in about thirty minutes to "share." This should be interesting...
I live in Mesa/Gilbert, AZ, which has the highest count of Mormons in a single town other than Orem, UT. In my 6 yrs here I never have seen any won. But I do that there was one MM that was from a oneness back ground and I went to church with his family. When he was on his mission he would visit oneness churches and almost get involved in them. So the mission leaders would move him around to other places to continue the mission. After a while they sent him home to his oneness family and he can back into the Apostolic faith. He still is today.

Being as I live in Mormon country I see alot of them. I have made up in my mind that when ever I see them I say hello. Also when they come to door I give them bottles of water. They are the nicest people. I have heard that at one time Mormon missionaries were asked to come to talk to a class at Gateway College of Evangelism. They would go talk to the evangelism class about their regement day to day. Matt Maddix said that it caused alot of conviction on the students.

I have some pretty close friends that are LDS Latter Day Saints. They are genuine and commetted to friends and family.
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:31 PM
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I live in Mesa/Gilbert, AZ, which has the highest count of Mormons in a single town other than Orem, UT. In my 6 yrs here I never have seen any won. But I do that there was one MM that was from a oneness back ground and I went to church with his family. When he was on his mission he would visit oneness churches and almost get involved in them. So the mission leaders would move him around to other places to continue the mission. After a while they sent him home to his oneness family and he can back into the Apostolic faith. He still is today.

Being as I live in Mormon country I see alot of them. I have made up in my mind that when ever I see them I say hello. Also when they come to door I give them bottles of water. They are the nicest people. I have heard that at one time Mormon missionaries were asked to come to talk to a class at Gateway College of Evangelism. They would go talk to the evangelism class about their regement day to day. Matt Maddix said that it caused alot of conviction on the students.

I have some pretty close friends that are LDS Latter Day Saints. They are genuine and commetted to friends and family.
Their oversea's missions training is crazy. They totally submerge into the culture they are going to. They are not allowed to speak any language but the language of the country. They attend class all day, and do work all evening.
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:35 PM
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Their oversea's missions training is crazy. They totally submerge into the culture they are going to. They are not allowed to speak any language but the language of the country. They attend class all day, and do work all evening.
Yup and thus ....they speak in new tongues.

Another thing they do....

We had some come to our apartment once years ago. A brother and I had just moved in and had no furniture in the living room. As we talked...or rather as I talked and one guy pretended to listen, the other one scoped out our apartment. Well they use things like that to get you in...they see what you need and try to meet that need. Of course most of us do that, but they do it by training as part of their missionary duties
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:15 PM
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Yup and thus ....they speak in new tongues.

Another thing they do....

We had some come to our apartment once years ago. A brother and I had just moved in and had no furniture in the living room. As we talked...or rather as I talked and one guy pretended to listen, the other one scoped out our apartment. Well they use things like that to get you in...they see what you need and try to meet that need. Of course most of us do that, but they do it by training as part of their missionary duties
I need to have them come by my house. I need a new car!!!
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:30 PM
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I need to have them come by my house. I need a new car!!!
I am sorely lacking in the bass boat, 4wheeler , jet ski, rec equipment department..........
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Their oversea's missions training is crazy. They totally submerge into the culture they are going to. They are not allowed to speak any language but the language of the country. They attend class all day, and do work all evening.
That is not all too true. When they are in different area they mostly speak that native language, however, they do not stop speaking english. I have had some of my LDS friends go to an area and speak nothing but the local language for the two years and when they get back they almost have to relearn english. I have one buddy that went to a town in TX and spoke Spanish the whole time and when he went back home and had to relearn english.

You are right when you say they emerse themselves in the culture. But that is because it makes it a whole lot easier to get on the level of the people they are reaching to. It would be that same if a foreigner came here on a mission they would try and blend in well. The only exception are the areas that can present dangerous risks. I have on e buddy that went to Malyasia and his group reached all the way in to Iraq, but the white folks could not go in there do to danger. So they the locals that are LDS go into that area.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:03 PM
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I live in Mesa/Gilbert, AZ, which has the highest count of Mormons in a single town other than Orem, UT. In my 6 yrs here I never have seen any won. But I do that there was one MM that was from a oneness back ground and I went to church with his family. When he was on his mission he would visit oneness churches and almost get involved in them. So the mission leaders would move him around to other places to continue the mission. After a while they sent him home to his oneness family and he can back into the Apostolic faith. He still is today.

Being as I live in Mormon country I see alot of them. I have made up in my mind that when ever I see them I say hello. Also when they come to door I give them bottles of water. They are the nicest people. I have heard that at one time Mormon missionaries were asked to come to talk to a class at Gateway College of Evangelism. They would go talk to the evangelism class about their regement day to day. Matt Maddix said that it caused alot of conviction on the students.

I have some pretty close friends that are LDS Latter Day Saints. They are genuine and commetted to friends and family.
I have a dear cousin who got involved in the Mormon faith when she and her husband lived in Utah a couple or so years. She was brought up in Apostolic truth just as I was....actually we are 3rd generation....but she just never would accept some things....and being a very nervous type person...said that all the screaming preachers made her nervous and afraid! lol I told her I was just as nervous and scared.....just conviction gettin hold of our hearts! We both got married at 17...I received the Holyghost for the first time the following year and she moved off with her navy husband. Those Mormons really twisted her mind in her beliefs. I agree though, that they are a very very friendly lot and very family oriented. She has recently moved back closer to me and we've been going out for lunch once in a while. She always brings up our old days as kids coming up...we were very close...still are.....and our grandmother raised her for the most part. OUr grandmother was actually a founding member of the pentecostal church in my town. She always talks about "grannie" and how she prayed and went to church and loved the Lord. The Lord is dealing with my cousin in a big way.... of that I have no doubt. But to top things off now.....her and her hubby are now attending a catholic church....he likes that church....and he too has apostolic background as his grandma also was a Holghost filled lady. It's so sad because now their 4 kids are all confused....one girl is one of the missionaries spoken of in some other posts....2 just don't go to church period....and 1 is believing he is an atheist. Please pray with me that I can somehow win them back to where they need to be in the Lord. God bless!
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:29 PM
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MorMons, not Morans...

Mormon Missionaries...

Has anyone here ever won any? I know of several former Mormons who have been won to truth, but I know of no Mormon missionaries who have been won during their mission.

Anyway, two are coming over to the "GL" house in about thirty minutes to "share." This should be interesting...
I have not, but I have had experience with them. One time I corned a couple who would not admit outright that they did not believe you could be saved with the bible only. In fact they ended up lying because they did not want to admit that I needed the BOM in order to be saved, but after carefully wording my questions they finally admitted that was the case.

They also believe that head Mormon dude in Utah is a prophet. I had one in VERY dramatic tones tell me "I...Have heard....the Voice....of The Prophet" (Picture William Shatner saying those words) and he expected me to believe him. I was debating with his partner on tongues.
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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