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Old 11-09-2010, 07:37 AM
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Re: Mark Barnaby has resigned his church? Left UPC

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Often both sides will seek one ... right ... Baron?
Both sides can though in my experience it is more often the woman, the filing indicated that no kids were involved (which often is a power play to keep the kids and the home) so the reasons for filing it if one does not actually fear for their safety may be to force the other party out of the home.

I have been involved in several cases where neither side has, I don't know what the percentages are but men filing them are significantly less especially when no children are involved.
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:20 PM
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If you do a Google Search and search for casenet and put in Mark Barnaby you can see his Missouri "rap" sheet of sorts. There is a restraining order against him from his wife and a divorce filing.
Fascinating site .... type in Urshan ...

and you find an NA Urshan 0f Hazelwood, MO was heavy on the gas pedal from 91-93 .... with two traffic tickets.
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Old 01-15-2011, 12:18 AM
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If you do a Google Search and search for casenet and put in Mark Barnaby you can see his Missouri "rap" sheet of sorts. There is a restraining order against him from his wife and a divorce filing.
Why would we want to look at a rap sheet on a preacher or saint of God? Why do we say guilty before a trial? Why is the UPCI losing ministers, churchs and numbers?

Could it be we have devoured our own?

We could have a 500 soul revival in St Louis and never hear of it. Let gossip start and it spreads like fire. Isn't that what James warned of?

Where are the soul winners? Where are the lovers and fishers of men? Come on.
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Old 01-15-2011, 10:46 AM
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Why would we want to look at a rap sheet on a preacher or saint of God? Why do we say guilty before a trial? Why is the UPCI losing ministers, churchs and numbers?

Could it be we have devoured our own?

We could have a 500 soul revival in St Louis and never hear of it. Let gossip start and it spreads like fire. Isn't that what James warned of?

Where are the soul winners? Where are the lovers and fishers of men? Come on.
Well-said! It's so easy to allow politics to have its way in any situation and twice as hard to weed it out.
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:53 PM
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Who is this guy?
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Old 03-28-2011, 12:45 PM
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03/23/2011 Docket Entry: Hearing/Trial Cancelled
Associated Docket Entries: 01/05/2011 - Trial Setting Scheduled

Associated Events: 04/04/2011 , 09:00:00 - Trial Setting

Docket Entry: Order
Text: THE TRIAL SETTING OF 4-4-11 IS VACATED. TRIAL REMAINS SET FOR 6-29-11 SO ORDERED: JUDGE THOMAS PREBIL
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03/23/2011 Docket Entry: Hearing/Trial Cancelled
Associated Docket Entries: 01/05/2011 - Trial Setting Scheduled

Associated Events: 04/04/2011 , 09:00:00 - Trial Setting

Docket Entry: Order
Text: THE TRIAL SETTING OF 4-4-11 IS VACATED. TRIAL REMAINS SET FOR 6-29-11 SO ORDERED: JUDGE THOMAS PREBIL
If it was cancelled then there is a chance for reconciliation .. hopefully that can happen.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:41 PM
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Re: Mark Barnaby has resigned his church? Left UPC

The only right and Godly thing to do (if he is indeed having marital issues) is to step aside. This however does not mean that he has sinned, or faltered from his beliefs.

I personally know a few pastors who have gone through this. They will either have a close friend (or family member) step in an pastor the church while the issue is resolved, or completely resign.

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This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop... A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, One that ruleth well his own house...For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?

Taking the time to focus on your personal life is the Godly thing to do. This will keep you blameless before God AND the World.

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I have always been taught the following order; God, Family, Church.
1) Be sure your own salvation is good
2) Be sure your family is safe and in line
3) Then take care of the church.

I have seen to many men of God neglect their family over pursuit of "Political Power" or to much time spent "working" for the church.
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Old 03-28-2011, 03:40 PM
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I was intrigued by casenet and did a new search. He has a "criminal/infraction" case against him dated 2/3/11 by the city of Hazlewood so I am guessing that is probably a traffic ticket.

I also saw the divorce and restraining order. The divorce case says "not disposed". The protection order shows "tried by court".

While doing that search some site popped up that told me their home address, the size of their lot, the size of their house, their property taxes, etc. The information age is scary!

I also ran across some very unhappy daycare customers who did not have very nice things to say about him or the asst. pastor. Of course there are a lot of nutty people out there who could be lying or exaggerating.
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Old 03-28-2011, 05:27 PM
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Re: Mark Barnaby has resigned his church? Left UPC

the 2/11 was not a traffic ticket look under docket entries,
the trial is still set for June
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