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Old 08-09-2019, 05:31 PM
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Re: Verses showing the Triune Godhead in each vers

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That's simply because you have been deceived, brainwashed, etc.
against several NT spiritual Truths. Lots of people have been also!

Just look at the multitudes of "believers" today who are deceived into
believing in free-grace, easy-grace, hyper-grace, easy-believism, etc.
If they don't overcome this horrendous thinking (OSAS, eternal security),
they are in mortal danger of staying in habitual sin and going to hell.

The Trinity is not the only spiritual Truth taught in the NT.
The anti-OSAS truth is also taught BIG-TIME in the NT. Dozens of verses.
But, Satan (working through the churches) is the master liar and deceiver.
I used to believe in the Trinity when I did not spend much time in the OT. Thankfully some Oneness Pentecostals went out of their way to point me to the truth.

As far as OSAS I am not aware at this time of Oneness groups that teach it. I have known a few in the past. To me its just as wrong to teach one need not be perfect as it is to teach OSAS.

The middle of the road types dont realize how close their doctrine is to OSAS.
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:28 PM
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Re: Verses showing the Triune Godhead in each vers

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That's simply because you have been deceived, brainwashed, etc.
against several NT spiritual Truths. Lots of people have been also!

Just look at the multitudes of "believers" today who are deceived into
believing in free-grace, easy-grace, hyper-grace, easy-believism, etc.
If they don't overcome this horrendous thinking (OSAS, eternal security),
they are in mortal danger of staying in habitual sin and going to hell.

The Trinity is not the only spiritual Truth taught in the NT.
The anti-OSAS truth is also taught BIG-TIME in the NT. Dozens of verses.
But, Satan (working through the churches) is the master liar and deceiver.
I think you maybe on the wrong forum to say that monotheistic believers are deceived.
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:11 PM
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Re: Verses showing the Triune Godhead in each vers

If the godhead is triune, and all the godhead dwells within Jesus bodily, then Jesus is the incarnation of the Trinity, and not just of one Person.

So then... is Jesus in the godhead? Or is the godhead in Jesus?
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If the godhead is triune, and all the godhead dwells within Jesus bodily, then Jesus is the incarnation of the Trinity, and not just of one Person.

So then... is Jesus in the godhead? Or is the godhead in Jesus?
Col.2

[9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.


The Godhead is in Jesus, according to this passage.
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Re: Verses showing the Triune Godhead in each vers

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I think you maybe on the wrong forum to say that monotheistic believers are deceived.
You don't think believers who are deceived need to be warned?
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:15 AM
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If the godhead is triune, and all the godhead dwells within Jesus bodily, then Jesus is the incarnation of the Trinity,
and not just of one Person.
So then... is Jesus in the godhead? Or is the godhead in Jesus?
"For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily" (Col. 2:9)

Yes, this is incredible ... I never said this Truth was easy!
I did say the Truth of it probably must be revealed by the Holy Spirit.

Isaiah says Jesus is God.
One of the Gospels says Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

Jesus says He will send the Holy Spirit.
Jesus says Father God will send the Holy Spirit.
John 14 says all Three will indwell the believer.

C'mon, they're all intertwined ... Three separate, but One God.
Ever hear of faith?
We are to believe everything in Scripture by faith!
The Trinity also.
Maybe it's one of the TESTS of our faith?

Meanwhile, no one is explaining how and why ...
all Three are together in so many verses ... like They are equal.


Isn't the Scriptural evidence overwhelming?
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:27 AM
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Re: Verses showing the Triune Godhead in each vers

I am still absorbing your several posts.
Meanwhile, y'all may choose to try and absorb this ...

In the old covenant, God did not reveal Himself as a Triune God.
In the new covenant, born-again Christians have the Holy Spirit
indwelling them, so are much more able to absorb deeper truths.

In the beginning, the Word was with (Father) God
and the Word was God (John 1:1).

The Word became Jesus (John 1:14),
so the Word was (at least) “the God part” of Jesus,
and so obviously Jesus was (at least) part God.

In several NT verses …
many people called Jesus “the Son of God” because
the Holy Spirit (God) played the role of Jesus’ “father”.
The Word = Jesus = the Son of God is not Father God.

In several NT verses …
Jesus claimed to be equal with (Father) God,
and others claimed that Jesus was equal to (Father) God.

Jesus (God) prayed to (Father) God in heaven.

All of this Scripture …
Is it too difficult to understand intellectually, or must
the Holy Spirit intervene and reveal the truth spiritually?
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Re: Verses showing the Triune Godhead in each vers

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You don't think believers who are deceived need to be warned?
You are a Trinitarian?

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The Trinity is not the only spiritual Truth taught in the NT.
The anti-OSAS truth is also taught BIG-TIME in the NT. Dozens of verses.
But, Satan (working through the churches) is the master liar and deceiver.
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Re: Verses showing the Triune Godhead in each vers

Let's add 2 more ...

John 14:16-17
"And I (Jesus) will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever — the Spirit of truth"

John 16:13-16
"However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; a little while, and you will not see Me; and again a
little while, and you will see Me, because I go to the Father."

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