Today's message at my church- Judgment is coming to America

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The Spirit and the bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

I agree, there is a need for retrospect, examination, and spiritual introspection, but really, I have been hearing apocalyptic bad news since I have been in the church and frankly, I don't buy the emotional pull that gives it its legs.

There is a call, a need for consistent and constant examination, levelheaded reasoning, and not emotional, run-to the altar tonight because the sky is falling!!!!

When I hear this junk being spewed to Young people it really gets under my skin! Young people are impressionable and their futures are already uncertain enough with out people, preachers constantly telling them they have nothing to live for (in essence) so they should get to the altar NOW!

Man, that is the truth!

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Thad

when this person hears from the Lord I sit up and listen.

Do you pay the same attention to Scripture???? We KNOW that's the voice of God.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Do you pay the same attention to Scripture???? We KNOW that's the voice of God.

Great POINT DAVE!

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Thad

I think you are right Dan.


It's so bad here - sin is so open and blantant it makes me sick.


The youth are in Bad shape.


2 parents had lunch with my brother and said in Jr high the boys are opening making out with other boys and it's cool - girls too.
the parents are worried to death

The New thing in california is to break yourself in sexually with the same sex, if you haven't you are not cool at all.

It's bad here in the Vancouver area.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Do you pay the same attention to Scripture???? We KNOW that's the voice of God.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

I agree, there is a need for retrospect, examination, and spiritual introspection, but really, I have been hearing apocalyptic bad news since I have been in the church and frankly, I don't buy the emotional pull that gives it its legs.

There is a call, a need for consistent and constant examination, levelheaded reasoning, and not emotional, run-to the altar tonight because the sky is falling!!!!

When I hear this junk being spewed to Young people it really gets under my skin! Young people are impressionable and their futures are already uncertain enough with out people, preachers constantly telling them they have nothing to live for (in essence) so they should get to the altar NOW!

I understand. I think what you've described above is wrong.

However, I do have a feeling that there is something stirring in our country now that we need to not ignore.

Our sermon this morning was about the same thing that was mentioned. As Americans we are a spoiled, rich country and each day there are efforts to take God out of our system - - not a good combination.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Great POINT DAVE!

Tired of people's mere opinions.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

I agree, there is a need for retrospect, examination, and spiritual introspection, but really, I have been hearing apocalyptic bad news since I have been in the church and frankly, I don't buy the emotional pull that gives it its legs.

There is a call, a need for consistent and constant examination, levelheaded reasoning, and not emotional, run-to the altar tonight because the sky is falling!!!!

When I hear this junk being spewed to Young people it really gets under my skin! Young people are impressionable and their futures are already uncertain enough with out people, preachers constantly telling them they have nothing to live for (in essence) so they should get to the altar NOW!

If it was just a scare tactic I would wholeheartedly agree.

Carp, people today don't scare anyways. they are numb to everything. hollywood and entertainment has got everyone dumbed down. our nation cares about who was Anna's baby daddy and the newest gagets. no one hardly pays any attention anymore to what is going in Iraq.

This was a bible study NO Alter call, nothing about trying to scare someone to repent.

this was a sobering word given to the body at the end of a bible lesson.

you've got our church and what went forth mixed up with the typical sermons you've heard. there was a different ring to this

[Thad]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Do you pay the same attention to Scripture???? We KNOW that's the voice of God.

Yes I do of course but he also speaks to his servants a prophets and I'm not talking about the ones with their names flashed in neon lights.
The humble nobody's are often the ones who are right on target