James Strong, KJV, Redefinitions of words?

[Sean]

Sorry Steve, but this hullabaloo started in another thread. Or resident mental patient also said that the reading of ancient symbols were impossible. Hence the reason I brought it up....


But no apologies for ANYTHING I posted about Sean.

Same level of insult, Aaron?

I have never been in a shrink evaluation, yet DB says I am a patient of one.

Did the recent exchange of Steven and the other poster have this vitriol?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

Same level of insult, Aaron?

I have never been in a shrink evaluation, yet DB says I am a patient of one.

Did the recent exchange of Steven and the other poster have this vitriol?

Yes. You would think Steve would be more kinder since he holds a higher standard then the rest of us pygmies.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Same level of insults? The guy reports posts and turns around and does the same thing? Hey, we all expect that and understand. We don’t run wee wee wee all the way home. But if you are going to complain about posters doing XYZ, don’t do it yourself. In any shape or form.

[Sean]

Is Steven a KJV Nazi, like you called us on the other thread, also?.....http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...7&postcount=32

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

This is the type of comment I might expect by an ignorant, rebellious youngster. With no sense of their heritage and landmarks.

Steven

ignorant? Wrong

rebellious? Wrong

Youngster? Wrong

Their heritage? Wrong

landmarks? Wrong

Wow you got five wrong out of five.

Your comments shows that you make way too many assumptions. :-)

[Evang.Benincasa]

John Wycliffe and his lollards would not be surprised how people still fight new translations. Again, this isn't a KJV bash fest, because the whole KJV Onlyist position remains an English onlyistic view of the Bible. This thread started out based on redefinitions of words, but as time goes on words will change. Meanings and definitions. In James 2:3, it says, "ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing" Does this mean that the verse is talking about dressing like a homosexual? Seriously, the Bible wasn't originally written in English, Spanish, or Turkish. When I'm studying with people whose first language isn't English, I would never make them struggle through 17th Century English. Or even have them read a modern English translation. But the best translation in their language which they can read and understand. Checking those translations with the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic.

[Esaias]

Versions in a language can be compared and given relative scores based on how accurately they communicate the underlying text. The problem is, there are several competing underlying texts involved. For example, the NASB uses a different Greek NT text than the KJV, so ANY comparison of the two must be based on a comparison of the two Greek texts (as far as the NT is concerned, anyway).

If there are competing texts (there are), and competing manuscripts underlying the texts (there are), then the question is simply "which reading is correct?"

And before that can be answered, we must determine "how is a correct reading even defined, and how is it to be determined?"

After all, they can't all be correct. And, no, I don't at this time have an answer to those questions.

[Pressing-On]

I was listening to someone say that they really liked the Young's Literal Translation. Anyone have an opinion on that?

[Sean]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...nk1cWUtpjbkZ6d



A random write up I found.

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Checking those translations with the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic.

That's funny. So the Romanian who speaks decent English, and loves the best Received Text Romanian Bible as well as the superb excellence of the AV, is now told to go to three languages that he does not speak at all!

This is the absurdity of the modern textual linguistic position.

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When our gentleman really means is not that he should go to the Greek, etc., but that he should go to various stumbling and bumbling English lexicon type tools that purport to tell him, in English, what the Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic mean.

The irony is that the learned men of the AV were far more fluent and knowledgeable in those languages than the lexicon authors, and they were translating phrases and words in context, not in the wooden, stilted, lexicon manner.

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We have above a prescription for confusion.

Steven