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Old 01-31-2011, 12:12 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???

I'm staying the UPC... for now...

I still think the good outweighs the bad...

Mark Johnston...and those guys made their choices...
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???

Mark who????
take note.....some of us don't pay any attention to who is who in Apostolic circles we just work for Jesus and are too busy to care........can I get an Amen from all of you out there who are so busy you barely have time to get online any more at all?????
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I've been out of UPCI for about 4 years now, never was licensed. But I can assure you that this post was the saddest and closest to home that I've read in a long time! Thank you, Mizpeh!

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...2&postcount=64

If this doesn't describe not only the UPCI, but the OP movement as a whole, I just don't know what does. Let's get back to the basics, folks. And by "basics," I don't mean all the stuff we add to the gospel.

Jesus said, "Go make disciples." He didn't say make converts and indoctrinate them with the dogma and tradition of our sect.
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I've been out of UPCI for about 4 years now, never was licensed. But I can assure you that this post was the saddest and closest to home that I've read in a long time! Thank you, Mizpeh!

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...2&postcount=64

If this doesn't describe not only the UPCI, but the OP movement as a whole, I just don't know what does. Let's get back to the basics, folks. And by "basics," I don't mean all the stuff we add to the gospel.

Jesus said, "Go make disciples." He didn't say make converts and indoctrinate them with the dogma and tradition of our sect.
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I've been out of UPCI for about 4 years now, never was licensed. But I can assure you that this post was the saddest and closest to home that I've read in a long time! Thank you, Mizpeh!

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...2&postcount=64

If this doesn't describe not only the UPCI, but the OP movement as a whole, I just don't know what does. Let's get back to the basics, folks. And by "basics," I don't mean all the stuff we add to the gospel.

Jesus said, "Go make disciples." He didn't say make converts and indoctrinate them with the dogma and tradition of our sect.
Amen. I feel the same and also used Garrison Keillor recently to make that point...
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When an organization's main purpose becomes growing the organization, it will eventually see it's end.

We need a leadership points to the Savior, not a HQ.
Wait....you mean the Savior's foot stool isn't in MO?
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I'm staying the UPC... for now...

I still think the good outweighs the bad...

Mark Johnston...and those guys made their choices...
Did you forget to add, " ...and God bless them, prosper them, and lead and guide them into all truth."?
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Did you forget to add, " ...and God bless them, prosper them, and lead and guide them into all truth."?
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According to some of the comments on a Mark Johnston youtube video, He's been out of the UPC for a few months:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt2bAW4ZwLw


"He is not UPCI anymore....he has totally went off the deep end and has no doctrinal stance based on his website.....
Drew2Cute 3 months ago"

"..is he still with UPCI..? I'm asking as I'm unable to locate him in the UPCI Church Locator.
YoMamaWearzArmyBootz 4 months ago
I hear great things about MJ but if this video clip is his usual speaking style I would last about 5 minutes in a service with him preaching. What is it with the screaming? Why do preachers think they have to do that to be powerful and effective or "annointed"? Arghhhh!!!!!
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I hear great things about MJ but if this video clip is his usual speaking style I would last about 5 minutes in a service with him preaching. What is it with the screaming? Why do preachers think they have to do that to be powerful and effective or "annointed"? Arghhhh!!!!!

How thankful I am that I was delivered from doing this!!

One of the funniest things to do would be to stand up in front of our church and preach like this. They would look at me as if I were from Mars.
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