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01-10-2022, 05:36 PM
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Re: Godliness?
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
So then you could say, "By the consent of all true
believers, the basis of the Christian religion is the fact that God
was manifest in the flesh.”
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Something like that. 
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01-10-2022, 06:59 PM
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Re: Godliness?
Hey there Pressing Iron!!! Good to see you posting.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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01-11-2022, 06:30 AM
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Re: Godliness?
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Something like that. |
That was the second part of the quote sent to me. 
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01-11-2022, 06:31 AM
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Re: Godliness?
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Hey there Pressing Iron!!! Good to see you posting.
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Hey! Hope you are your family are well!
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01-11-2022, 10:12 AM
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Re: Godliness?
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Hey! Hope you are your family are well!
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Edit
Hope you AND your family are well.
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01-11-2022, 11:45 AM
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Re: Godliness?
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
So then you could say, "By the consent of all true
believers, the basis of the Christian religion is the fact that God
was manifest in the flesh.”
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Something like that. |
So, for that to make sense, and which I wasn’t initially focused on would be the first quote:
“Without controversy" is actually one word in the original
Greek, and it means "by the consent of all." By context, it speaks
of that which is agreed upon by all true believers.
I haven’t ever heard this verse discussed in any depth.
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01-12-2022, 08:40 PM
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Re: Godliness?
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I read this quote and wondered if anyone had anything to confirm this definition? I haven’t seen it defined in this way anywhere else. Obviously, I don’t have Schaffs Commentary.
“The Greek word which is translated "godliness" is not the
same word which is usually used to convey the concept of
"godliness." Rather, it is a totally different word with a more far-
reaching definition. According to Philip Schaffs Popular
Commentary on the New Testament, "the word 'godliness'
is taken [to mean] the religion which men profess.?”
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Schaff's commentary is on this site below.
https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng/scn.html
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01-13-2022, 09:16 AM
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Re: Godliness?
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Thank you! 
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02-18-2022, 12:35 AM
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Re: Godliness?
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STRONGS NT 2150: εὐσέβεια
εὐσέβεια, εὐσεβείας, ἡ (εὐσεβής), reverence, respect; in the Bible everywhere piety toward God, godliness: Acts 3:12; 1 Timothy 2:2; 1 Timothy 4:7, 8; 1 Timothy 6:5f, 11; 2 Timothy 3:5; 2 Peter 1:3, 6f; ἡ κατ' εὐσέβειαν διδασκαλία, the doctrine that promotes godliness, 1 Timothy 6:3 (see κατά, II. 3 d.); ἡ ἀλήθεια ἡ κατ' εὐσέβειαν, the truth that leads to godliness, Titus 1:1; τό μυστήριον τῆς εὐσεβείας, the mystery which is held by godliness and nourishes it, 1 Timothy 3:16; in plural, aims and acts of godliness, 2 Peter 3:11; cf. Pfieiderer, Paulinism., p. 477f (English translation, ii. 209f). (Aeschylus, Sophocles, Xenophon, Plato, and following; often in Josephus; the Sept. Proverbs 1:7; Proverbs 13:11; Isaiah 11:2; Wis. 10:12; often in 4 Macc.; πρός τόν Θεόν, Josephus, Antiquities 18, 5, 2; (περί τό θεῖον) contra Apion 1, 22, 2; εἰς Θεούς καί γονεας, Plato, rep. 10, p. 615 c.) (Cf. Schmidt, chapter 181.) |
Hence the name Eusebius, the 4th century church historian.
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