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Old 01-13-2021, 09:57 AM
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It isn't just "the dems". It's the entire uniparty, democrat and republican. BOTH of them are the problem.
Both teams are wings on the same vulture.
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Exactly right. The next 4 years will see the new America divorcing the Churches.
Explain? Are you saying 501c3?
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And depending on the Church reaction, the overreach could backfire.

Or . . . not. I'm the last guy to try to determine why God does what he does. Trump was an outlier. Somewhere in the middle of this the "Cyrus" thing (Or even Jehu, which was one of Johnathan Cahn's summations, which I still find fascinating) came out, and somebody told Trump he was Cyrus (not a good thing to tell a guy with his penchant for adulation).

But he got three justices through that are somewhat reliable on big-ticket stuff.

Ginsberg's Rosh Hashanah death was another odd thing.

Then . . . this. So me? I give up.
Could you explain how this could be important?
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I guess Preterists believe the times will be good before Jesus comes. The bad times are in the past.
That's not what Originalist was saying. Don't start a fight you can't win Mike.
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Explain? Are you saying 501c3?
Not just that. American Christians at least many of them have come to see Americans as "Gods people". They dont think in terms of we are a distinct group APART FROM America any more.

And in the new America they are in for a rude awakening. Americans are celebrating Socialism. Socialists are in power and they are going to turn on the Churches like they are turning on the Conservatives.
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That's not what Originalist was saying. Don't start a fight you can't win Mike.
James said wickedness will reign in the end time. Originalist responds with he is a partial preterist.

It sounds like he is saying wickedness wont be a big deal in his belief.

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Could you explain how this could be important?
Simply the idea that a new year was dawning (On the Hebrew calendar, and in time for the President to replace the most idolized Linchpin on the court, and also close enough to an election that the left couldn't storm the Senate hearings without killing their electoral chances).
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James said wickedness will reign in the end time. Originalist responds with he is a partial preterist.

It sounds like he is saying wickedness wont be a big deal in his belief.
Interesting. So if "preterists" think the world is getting better, it is cyclical? An upswing. then a downswing in wickedness?
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Not just that. American Christians at least many of them have come to see Americans as "Gods people". They dont think in terms of we are a distinct group APART FROM America any more.

And in the new America they are in for a rude awakening. Americans are celebrating Socialism. Socialists are in power and they are going to turn on the Churches like they are turning on the Conservatives.
This country is evenly divided. The majority of those who revere the Founders and the constitution are Bible believers, not ashamed of Christ. The scare we are going through will cause many in the latter group to seek God and embrace more personal holiness. This does not mean the majority will embrace the entirety of what we believe as Apostolics, but there will be turning to God as the realization becomes more clear unless he build the house, they labor in vain which build it. From the ashes might immerge a break-away Constitutional republic that is openly Christian in character. Truthfully, if it will just adhere to the Constitution as intended by the Founders, righteousness will have a better chance at prevailing. Much of the sin that has engulfed our nation resulted from unconstitutional court rulings that the Christians in the States did not know how to react to or resist.

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They dont think in terms of we are a distinct group APART FROM America any more.
It seems you are saying we must be one or the other. I do not believe God raised up so many Christians in this nation, gave them a form of government where they get a say, only to have them take a casual attitude that says, "Oh well. This world is not my home," and just bend over to grab our ankles. I care DEEPLY about what form of government kids live under. I will do whatever it takes, as God helps me, to drive the Reds out (not speaking of the baseball team.)

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Not just that. American Christians at least many of them have come to see Americans as "Gods people". They dont think in terms of we are a distinct group APART FROM America any more.

And in the new America they are in for a rude awakening. Americans are celebrating Socialism. Socialists are in power and they are going to turn on the Churches like they are turning on the Conservatives.
Well according to you, these churches have been messed up since the 70s, the 80s, the 90s? They actually teach anti perfection.
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