Repentance in Acts 2:38

[Costeon]

In Acts 2:38, what does it mean to "repent," and when someone repents, what is their status before God, or what does it accomplish?

[Amanah]

Repentance and baptism are inseparable for the remission of sins, just as the wedding vows, and the wedding night are both required for one to be actually married

[Costeon]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Repentance and baptism are inseparable for the remission of sins, just as the wedding vows, and the wedding night are both required for one to be actually married

What does repent mean, though? What does it accomplish?

[Amanah]

You can promise to forsake all others, but your not married till you take His name

[Esaias]

If you were told "Hey, stop sinning and get baptised in Jesus name so your sins will be forgiven" would you have a hard time understanding that?

[Costeon]

Originally Posted by Esaias

If you were told "Hey, stop sinning and get baptised in Jesus name so your sins will be forgiven" would you have a hard time understanding that?

Repent means "stop sinning"? Is there no forgiveness at all till baptism? I ask because I was reading the section on repentance in David Bernard's book The New Birth, and he asserts that repentance partially effects forgiveness and baptism completes forgiveness. He argues this, it seems, because he is trying to account for how people can receive the Spirit before baptism even though their sins are still fully against them--which they would be if there is no forgiveness till baptism.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Costeon

Repent means "stop sinning"? Is there no forgiveness at all till baptism? I ask because I was reading the section on repentance in David Bernard's book The New Birth, and he asserts that repentance partially effects forgiveness and baptism completes forgiveness. He argues this, it seems, because he is trying to account for how people can receive the Spirit before baptism even though their sins are still fully against them--which they would be if there is no forgiveness till baptism.

BpopulBernard - and you - are still viewing repentance as the old "first trip to the altar" scenario left over from Wesleyan Pentecostal and Baptist influences, where repentance is a particular liturgical action usually involving a crying/confessing spell at an altar rail or bedside leading to a catharsis that is mistaken for "justification".

Biblically, repentance means turning back to God, so is not a particular step in a 2 or 3 step process but a more general term like "get right with God".

Remission of sins for the alien uncovenanted sinner is experienced in baptism. And remission and forgiveness are identical words in Greek.

[Costeon]

Originally Posted by Esaias

BpopulBernard - and you - are still viewing repentance as the old "first trip to the altar" scenario left over from Wesleyan Pentecostal and Baptist influences, where repentance is a particular liturgical action usually involving a crying/confessing spell at an altar rail or bedside leading to a catharsis that is mistaken for "justification".

Biblically, repentance means turning back to God, so is not a particular step in a 2 or 3 step process but a more general term like "get right with God".

Remission of sins for the alien uncovenanted sinner is experienced in baptism. And remission and forgiveness are identical words in Greek.

Your second and third paragraphs alone would have been a great response to my initial post.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Costeon

Your second and third paragraphs alone would have been a great response to my initial post.

The first paragraph identifies the commonly held erroneous approach to the subject. It was not meant to be any kind of attack. Sorry if it came across that way.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Esaias

[some] are still viewing repentance as the old "first trip to the altar" scenario left over from Wesleyan Pentecostal and Baptist influences, where repentance is a particular liturgical action usually involving a crying/confessing spell at an altar rail or bedside leading to a catharsis that is mistaken for "justification".

Biblically, repentance means turning back to God, so is not a particular step in a 2 or 3 step process but a more general term like "get right with God".

Remission of sins for the alien uncovenanted sinner is experienced in baptism. And remission and forgiveness are identical words in Greek.