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Old 06-29-2018, 01:04 PM
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Re: SCOTUS deals public sector unions a blow

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Never been in a union and never had to work Sundays or Wednesdays. Most jobs I've worked have been first shift hours, but in the rare jobs I've had on second or third shifts, I typically haven't had an issue. I've always made it clear in the interview that I do not work on Sundays or mid-week service nights.

There was one tech support job I had in which new management came in and told me any previous agreement with prior management was not going to be honored. They scheduled me (I believe on purpose) to work both on Sundays and on Wednesday evening. I put in my notice and quit.
LOL

Like I said, I never had a problem after 2004. And even before that, while I had to miss midweek in one position, I was typically able to attend at least one service on Sundays.
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:08 PM
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Re: SCOTUS deals public sector unions a blow

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Your argument makes no sense to me. How can one guy getting hired at higher wages, make it easier for the company to hire at lower wages? Sounds to me like you're for socialized "work".

"Equal pay for all (regardless of work performance)"

That's what your argument comes across as to me. Personally, I'm for merit-based pay. You're paid what you earn through your performance. If you're a low-skilled, low-value employee, then you'll make a lower wage. If you're a high-skilled, high-value employee, then you'll make a higher wage. Then again, I'm not a socialist.



I've never worked a job that required me to work Sundays, either. I had one position that I offered to work (3rd shift) Saturday nights into Sunday morning IF there was an emergency. They scheduled me 2x in a row on Sat-Sun and also Sun-Mon, at which point I told them flat out that I would not do it again. They abused my generosity, and so I withdrew my offer. I didn't even have to quit, and no union needed.
There isn't a one size fits all situation here. Some union contracts allow for incentives. And I'm not against them.

What I like to see is employees begin on the same footing if they meet the minimum requirements. Why? Because there is no guarantee that the more skilled individual will produce quality work. The one who excels can win the incentives. The one who doesn't excel but gets the job done can settle for the regular wage increases or whatever the contract states.

I'll say it again, I'm not against incentives.

The only thing that concerns me are laws that allow for the management of a union shop to essentially side-step the union contract legally. A contract is supposed to be a contract.

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A contract isn't "socialism".

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